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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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About to drop the 3-c Thor crt in a min
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Oop 3-C!?
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the posters? they look fine imo, if you're calling a poster super bad I'm expecting the poster to be nwh level
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Speaking of celestials, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Eson_the_Searcher_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)
why isn’t this guy on the same tier as the celestials? Is the profile outdated?
why isn’t this guy on the same tier as the celestials? Is the profile outdated?
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It was supposed to be deleted since we consider eson the same as the other celestials which makes thebprofile useless
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Yo, “What If…?!” Season 2 is gonna be CRAZY!! Y’all see the leaked Storyboards?
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Man… I really wish Live Action MCU had some of these feats
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I was thinking, He Who Remains uses the words universe, reality and timeline interchangeably, and we have the statements about the multiverse containing infinite universes and realities when it was just the Sacred Timeline, wouldn't that make it a 2-A structure? And after the multiverse was released and the Sacred Timeline branched into other timelines, we have the statement of the endless possibilities where a simple decision can branch out into infinite realities. I don't know how that would affect the current cosmology
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It doesn’t apparently. A 2-A structure within a 2-A structure is still considered just baseline 2-A from what’s I’ve heard
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But that wouldn't make characters like the Watcher 2-A since he is able to fix the collapse of a timeline? This interview states that the branches of the Sacred Timeline are bigger timelines.
Edit: after the events of Loki, the multiverse now contains endless timelines bigger than the Sacred Timeline (which contained infinite universes, realities, and dimensions) where a single choice can branch out into infinite realities (universe and reality are used interchangeably). In summary, the multiverse contains endless 2-A timelines, and in each of those timelines a single choice can branch out into infinite realities, aka 2-A. Or at least that's how I understood it
Edit: after the events of Loki, the multiverse now contains endless timelines bigger than the Sacred Timeline (which contained infinite universes, realities, and dimensions) where a single choice can branch out into infinite realities (universe and reality are used interchangeably). In summary, the multiverse contains endless 2-A timelines, and in each of those timelines a single choice can branch out into infinite realities, aka 2-A. Or at least that's how I understood it
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She-Hulk concept art
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They should make an animated series of She hulk with this style, instead of the one we have nowShe-Hulk concept art
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My god, that hairstyle just does not work.She-Hulk concept art
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The way I understand it was that every timeline can branch into endless Branches. So if the Sacred Timeline Branches into a billion+ Timelines, each of those billion+ timelines can branch into a billion+ timelines and this continues in perpetuity.
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honestly i dig it
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Can't find a good video of it that isn't edited down, but for what it's worth, the Watcher did seem to think that the entire multiverse was in danger because of Infinity Ultron:
Captain Carter: You kidnapped us from across the galaxy so we could, what? Save the universe?
The Watcher: Mmm. Not exactly. Bit more complicated than that.
Strange Supreme: You aren't just our best hope to save one universe.
The Watcher: You are my last hope to save all of them.
Captain Carter: You kidnapped us from across the galaxy so we could, what? Save the universe?
The Watcher: Mmm. Not exactly. Bit more complicated than that.
Strange Supreme: You aren't just our best hope to save one universe.
The Watcher: You are my last hope to save all of them.
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I'm thinking about doing this CRT, though it would be to much to have three massive MCU upgrades at the same time (Low 1-C K.E.V.I.N, 3-C Thor and 2-A Infinite Ultron). Thoughts?
To start with the CRT we must first analyze the cosmology of the MCU:
After the Multiversal War between countless timelines, the multiverse was isolated in a single timeline, the Sacred Timeline, which contained infinite universes, realities and dimensions, therefore the Sacred Timeline is a 2-A structure. After the events of Loki, the multiverse was released and the Sacred Timeline branched into bigger timelines, endless possibilities where a single choice can branch out into infinite realities (universe and reality are used interchangeably). In summary, the current multiverse contains endless 2-A timelines, and in each of those timelines a single choice can branch out into infinite realities, aka 2-A.
The Watcher is stated to be able to fix the collapse of a timeline, and WoG states that Infinite Ultron was legitimately punching through multiverses turning them into one "messy universe soup", and as I explained before each timeline contains an infinite number of universes, among other things, therefore both feats should be 2-A due to how the MCU cosmology works.
After the Multiversal War between countless timelines, the multiverse was isolated in a single timeline, the Sacred Timeline, which contained infinite universes, realities and dimensions, therefore the Sacred Timeline is a 2-A structure. After the events of Loki, the multiverse was released and the Sacred Timeline branched into bigger timelines, endless possibilities where a single choice can branch out into infinite realities (universe and reality are used interchangeably). In summary, the current multiverse contains endless 2-A timelines, and in each of those timelines a single choice can branch out into infinite realities, aka 2-A.
The Watcher is stated to be able to fix the collapse of a timeline, and WoG states that Infinite Ultron was legitimately punching through multiverses turning them into one "messy universe soup", and as I explained before each timeline contains an infinite number of universes, among other things, therefore both feats should be 2-A due to how the MCU cosmology works.
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When yall scaling Kingpin to MHS+
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Ig when people do She hulk revisions and create that profile but the higher tiered feats she did need to be calculated
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Netflix should've gotten MHS+ the second Kingpin casually overpowered Kate multiple times in their fight
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Because at the time that hawkeye was relevant, Kingpin had a sudden appearance just a few months after we had gotten multiple articles of Feige vaguely saying stuff that made it sound like the Netflix shows weren't canon to the MCU.
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Wouldn’t this be through Incursions?
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That could be invading them one by one and doing what he did to the "main" one.
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It's tricky to say conclusively, considering Incursions weren't specifically brought up in What If...?, though the way Multiverse of Magic explained them suggests that Incursions could have only had the potential to occur between alternate universes that Infinity Ultron directly interacted with for prolonged periods of time and his own universe.
I'm mainly going by the Watcher specifically stating that stopping Infinity Ultron would save every universe, despite the fact that multiverse containing infinite universes. I don't think the statement makes as much sense if Ultron is only capable of destroying each universe one by one throughout an infinite multiverse.
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DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT MAN, I ALMOST THOUGHT PRIVATE GOMER PYLE DIED
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I was referring to Michael Clarke Duncan
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i'm famos
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can i have yur autographi'm famos
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