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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Colonel_Krukov said:
It's not worth watching. Like, I'd rather try and invent a time machine and a memory transfer device, to go back and give myself the memories, saving myself and others time from watching this garbage than recommend it to people.
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Colonel_Krukov said:
It's not worth watching. Like, I'd rather try and invent a time machine and a memory transfer device, to go back and give myself the memories, saving myself and others time from watching this garbage than recommend it to people.
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Spider-Man Homecoming is basically the same thing and you probably enjoyed that
 
I rewatched No Way Home and realized several things that might mean the endings for the Raimi and Amazing Spider-Men are not as happy as they seem:

  • Octavius will return to the moment when his second fusion reactor goes haywire but with one less tentacle to use because of the Green Goblin, meaning it will be much more difficult for him to destroy the reactor and possibly even impossible.
  • The Lizard only has four fingers on the hand that Captain Stacy shot off in the climax of the first Amazing film, meaning that unless he came from the roughly six-second window between the hand growing back and Stacy being fatally wounded, being cured here ultimately doesn't change his story in the slightest; Stacy is still dead and he's still going to prison to stew in his guilt.
  • Electro is cured and loses his powers, so everything should be okay. Except Harry is still going to ambush Peter and Gwen some moments after and without his powers to help, Max will be useless and Gwen will almost certainly die anyway.
  • Thanks to Multiverse of Madness, we now know the two Peters and their foes (plus Eddie and Venom) were risking an Incursion, and a four-way one at that. Sure the visitors were sent back to their home realities but what did Reed say about Incursions again? That the chance of an Incursion increases "the larger the footprint you leave behind". What did the non-MCU characters do in this movie? Aunt May is killed by the Goblin, the Statue of Liberty was wrecked by the villains and partially the two Peters, everyone forgot who MCU Peter was, at least three villains doomed to die were sent back with a fresh start, and a frickin' Symbiote was born and is now on the hunt for a host in the MCU. That's a pretty big footprint if you think about it.
 
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ArkhamDC06 said:
I rewatched No Way Home and realized several things that might mean the endings for the Raimi and Amazing Spider-Men are not as happy as they seem:

  • Octavius will return to the moment when his second fusion reactor goes haywire but with one less tentacle to use because of the Green Goblin, meaning it will be much more difficult for him to destroy the reactor and possibly even impossible.
  • The Lizard only has four fingers on the hand that Captain Stacy shot off in the climax of the first Amazing film, meaning that unless he came from the roughly six-second window between the hand growing back and Stacy being fatally wounded, being cured here ultimately doesn't change his story in the slightest; Stacy is still dead and he's still going to prison to stew in his guilt.
  • Electro is cured and loses his powers, so everything should be okay. Except Harry is still going to ambush Peter and Gwen some moments after and without his powers to help, Max will be useless and Gwen will almost certainly die anyway.
  • Thanks to Multiverse of Madness, we now know the two Peters and their foes (plus Eddie and Venom at that) were risking an Incursion, and a four-way one at that. Sure the visitors were sent back to their home realities but what did Reed say about Incursions again? That the chance of an Incursion increases "the larger the footprint you leave behind". What did the non-MCU characters do in this movie? Aunt May is killed by the Goblin, the Statue of Liberty was wrecked by the villains and partially the two Peters, everyone forgot who Peter was, at least three villains doomed to die were sent back with a fresh start, and a frickin' Symbiote was born and is now on the hunt for a host in the MCU. That's a pretty big footprint if you think about it.
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And also a version of Vulture is out there in another universe
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
The point is that we had gigantic hopes for the meteor feat but it ended up being disappointing so let's not get too much hype for this stuff as well
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Huge difference between hyping up a feat that we don't know shit about and anticipating the possibly necessary evaluation of a calculated feat that no one had anything against mathematically
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
I rewatched No Way Home and realized several things that might mean the endings for the Raimi and Amazing Spider-Men are not as happy as they seem:

  • Octavius will return to the moment when his second fusion reactor goes haywire but with one less tentacle to use because of the Green Goblin, meaning it will be much more difficult for him to destroy the reactor and possibly even impossible.
  • The Lizard only has four fingers on the hand that Captain Stacy shot off in the climax of the first Amazing film, meaning that unless he came from the roughly six-second window between the hand growing back and Stacy being fatally wounded, being cured here ultimately doesn't change his story in the slightest; Stacy is still dead and he's still going to prison to stew in his guilt.
  • Electro is cured and loses his powers, so everything should be okay. Except Harry is still going to ambush Peter and Gwen some moments after and without his powers to help, Max will be useless and Gwen will almost certainly die anyway.
  • Thanks to Multiverse of Madness, we now know the two Peters and their foes (plus Eddie and Venom at that) were risking an Incursion, and a four-way one at that. Sure the visitors were sent back to their home realities but what did Reed say about Incursions again? That the chance of an Incursion increases "the larger the footprint you leave behind". What did the non-MCU characters do in this movie? Aunt May is killed by the Goblin, the Statue of Liberty was wrecked by the villains and partially the two Peters, everyone forgot who Peter was, at least three villains doomed to die were sent back with a fresh start, and a frickin' Symbiote was born and is now on the hunt for a host in the MCU. That's a pretty big footprint if you think about it.
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And it’s all because Tony Stark named a holograph system “B.A.R.F”
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
I rewatched No Way Home and realized several things that might mean the endings for the Raimi and Amazing Spider-Men are not as happy as they seem:

  • Octavius will return to the moment when his second fusion reactor goes haywire but with one less tentacle to use because of the Green Goblin, meaning it will be much more difficult for him to destroy the reactor and possibly even impossible.
  • The Lizard only has four fingers on the hand that Captain Stacy shot off in the climax of the first Amazing film, meaning that unless he came from the roughly six-second window between the hand growing back and Stacy being fatally wounded, being cured here ultimately doesn't change his story in the slightest; Stacy is still dead and he's still going to prison to stew in his guilt.
  • Electro is cured and loses his powers, so everything should be okay. Except Harry is still going to ambush Peter and Gwen some moments after and without his powers to help, Max will be useless and Gwen will almost certainly die anyway.
  • Thanks to Multiverse of Madness, we now know the two Peters and their foes (plus Eddie and Venom at that) were risking an Incursion, and a four-way one at that. Sure the visitors were sent back to their home realities but what did Reed say about Incursions again? That the chance of an Incursion increases "the larger the footprint you leave behind". What did the non-MCU characters do in this movie? Aunt May is killed by the Goblin, the Statue of Liberty was wrecked by the villains and partially the two Peters, everyone forgot who Peter was, at least three villains doomed to die were sent back with a fresh start, and a frickin' Symbiote was born and is now on the hunt for a host in the MCU. That's a pretty big footprint if you think about it.
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The hypothetical Secret Wars adaptation just got more interesting...
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
I rewatched No Way Home and realized several things that might mean the endings for the Raimi and Amazing Spider-Men are not as happy as they seem:

  • Octavius will return to the moment when his second fusion reactor goes haywire but with one less tentacle to use because of the Green Goblin, meaning it will be much more difficult for him to destroy the reactor and possibly even impossible.
  • The Lizard only has four fingers on the hand that Captain Stacy shot off in the climax of the first Amazing film, meaning that unless he came from the roughly six-second window between the hand growing back and Stacy being fatally wounded, being cured here ultimately doesn't change his story in the slightest; Stacy is still dead and he's still going to prison to stew in his guilt.
  • Electro is cured and loses his powers, so everything should be okay. Except Harry is still going to ambush Peter and Gwen some moments after and without his powers to help, Max will be useless and Gwen will almost certainly die anyway.
  • Thanks to Multiverse of Madness, we now know the two Peters and their foes (plus Eddie and Venom at that) were risking an Incursion, and a four-way one at that. Sure the visitors were sent back to their home realities but what did Reed say about Incursions again? That the chance of an Incursion increases "the larger the footprint you leave behind". What did the non-MCU characters do in this movie? Aunt May is killed by the Goblin, the Statue of Liberty was wrecked by the villains and partially the two Peters, everyone forgot who Peter was, at least three villains doomed to die were sent back with a fresh start, and a frickin' Symbiote was born and is now on the hunt for a host in the MCU. That's a pretty big footprint if you think about it.
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My headcanon is that Lizard and Electro are from a later point of the TASM timeline (Electro was teased to have survived), and Otto used the arc reactor to stabilise his reactor.
 
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