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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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ArkhamDC06 said:
I rewatched No Way Home and realized several things that might mean the endings for the Raimi and Amazing Spider-Men are not as happy as they seem:

  • Octavius will return to the moment when his second fusion reactor goes haywire but with one less tentacle to use because of the Green Goblin, meaning it will be much more difficult for him to destroy the reactor and possibly even impossible.
  • The Lizard only has four fingers on the hand that Captain Stacy shot off in the climax of the first Amazing film, meaning that unless he came from the roughly six-second window between the hand growing back and Stacy being fatally wounded, being cured here ultimately doesn't change his story in the slightest; Stacy is still dead and he's still going to prison to stew in his guilt.
  • Electro is cured and loses his powers, so everything should be okay. Except Harry is still going to ambush Peter and Gwen some moments after and without his powers to help, Max will be useless and Gwen will almost certainly die anyway.
  • Thanks to Multiverse of Madness, we now know the two Peters and their foes (plus Eddie and Venom at that) were risking an Incursion, and a four-way one at that. Sure the visitors were sent back to their home realities but what did Reed say about Incursions again? That the chance of an Incursion increases "the larger the footprint you leave behind". What did the non-MCU characters do in this movie? Aunt May is killed by the Goblin, the Statue of Liberty was wrecked by the villains and partially the two Peters, everyone forgot who Peter was, at least three villains doomed to die were sent back with a fresh start, and a frickin' Symbiote was born and is now on the hunt for a host in the MCU. That's a pretty big footprint if you think about it.
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My headcanon is that they are returned to the moment that is considered the present of their respective universe. Connors and Max would return to Garfield Spider-Man's present. Osbourne, Octavious and Marko would arrive many years later in conjunction with Maguire's present. Either that, or the spell warps reality to make sure the whole "doesn't die defeating Spider-Man" is fixed.

Doesn't Octavious also take the arc reactor home with him?
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
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And they said John Walker was a bad choice...
 
Lacku said:
idk if this was ever discussed but couldn't we scale Capatin Marvel to Low 6-B from tanking Kree Missiles? They were calced to be that strong here
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The reason we don't is because she wasn't directly in the explosion as they happend even if the flew into them
 
CharlesZaGreat said:


It worked with Shang-Chi since the movie was supposed to be reinventing the character a bit and Ms. Marvel seems to be returning to street level for the finale
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I'm literally a sucker for mythological stuff (this one of the many reasons I love Fate so much) so I'm not complaining (though I'm not a fan of Miss Marvel)
 
CharlesZaGreat said:


It worked with Shang-Chi since the movie was supposed to be reinventing the character a bit and Ms. Marvel seems to be returning to street level for the finale
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Honestly one of my biggest problems with Phase 4 and the MCU as a whole with other street levels, it's as if their allergic to superheroes actually saving people instead of saving the world. Even as much as I love it this problem even extends to the Spider-Man trilogy past Homecoming with both FFH and NWH having deleted scenes of Spider-Man doing Spider-Man things.
 
It's also genuinely insane to me that we haven't gotten to see both Moon Knight and Ms. Marvel stop a single crime in both their TV shows.
 
Jimmy.robinson.5099 said:
Plus, isn't that literally Moon Knight's whole schtick (aside from the DID, of course)?
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Yup, man is down to Earth (The Gods are typically portrayed as just being apart of Marc's mind, Khonshu being this internal toxicity within him. Writers did a good job at keeping things vague...Until Age of Khonshu, but no one likes that story.) I hope Marc also gets his friends next season (If it gets one), I need Frenchie, Gena, and Crawley (Who did show up in the show, but did jackshit)
 
Lacku said:
Honestly one of my biggest problems with Phase 4 and the MCU as a whole with other street levels, it's as if their allergic to superheroes actually saving people instead of saving the world. Even as much as I love it this problem even extends to the Spider-Man trilogy past Homecoming with both FFH and NWH having deleted scenes of Spider-Man doing Spider-Man things.
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TBF, I'm pretty sure DC has that problem, too. At least in the comics.
 
Lacku said:
It's genuinely insane to me that we haven't gotten to see both Moon Knight and Ms. Marvel stop a single crime in both their TV shows.
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Ms. Marvel seems like it has an issue with the episode limit. Like she's already feeling conflict over being a hero by episode three (Has only saved two people at this point). I hope since she's going against the government next episode, we get to see some more heroics out of her.
 
Jimmy.robinson.5099 said:
Remember that Dark Multiverse storyline? The one that implied Batman was, like, the single most important being in all of existance or something? I know that's Batman, but I also know he's not the only one...
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That's one of many storylines that he's gone through, the majority of Batmans comics are rooted in crime fighting.
 
Lacku said:
It's also genuinely insane to me that we haven't gotten to see both Moon Knight and Ms. Marvel stop a single crime in both their TV shows.
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Tbf, Moon Knight at least had pretty good reasons for not focusing on solving crimes since he's targeted by a cult worshipping a soul devouring abominaiton and he's himself controlled by an Egyptian God down to his body not even obeying him
 
Y’all what’s the highest we can get this verse to with the feats we have right now?

Thor and MoM haven’t given us shit for feats and the next movie featuring a top tier isn’t supposed to come out until February of next year (the marvels)

She-Hulk and Armor Wars (which is still a long time away) might give us something but it’s doubtful
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Tbf, Moon Knight at least had pretty good reasons for not focusing on solving crimes since he's targeted by a cult worshipping a soul devouring abominaiton and he's himself controlled by an Egyptian God down to his body not even obeying him
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Moon Knight vs a cult sounds great. The whole World Ending threat is where the problem comes in (Also the fact that the Egyptian gods real and not just part of Marc's mind or at least done in a vague way)
 
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