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Also, I'm gonna say it for the sake of it even if it's quite obvious, but no, Ego does NOT scale in any way to the Celestials in that movie
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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I think they should atleast be 3-c seeing as we straight up see a celestial make a galaxy and maybe make arahiem a bit higher since he predates the Big Bang
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Actually now that I’m looking back at the text it says the “celestials” predated the Big Bang so there actually a lot higher then I thought
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Inb4 the explanation for Ego not being like the other Celestials is some sort of birth defect thing. Either its that, or Ego was just lying to sound cool.
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Creating a galaxy is 4-B
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That's why I said it was my assumption
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Hum...no? 4-B is creating/destroying a solar system, creating a galaxy is indeed 3-C
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I think he was talking about just matter in a galaxy, not including space
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In that case, wouldn't it be more 4-A?
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Considering the can create galxises and said galaxies have space between stars I think that would be 3-c and even then, creating 100 billion stars would be far above just solar system lvl
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Maybe. I mean, at the very least, we know he isn't lying about the immortality part since it's the basis of his entire plan. Maybe he came from a planet that was damaged enough to make him really weird by Celestial standards but sill complete enough to give birth
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There's no way Arishem and the Celestials will be lower than tier 4, at the very least they get 4-C anyway
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You know what? I'm thinking about all those MCU years back to 2008 and all those villains in the MCU (barring Infinity Ultron, Dormammu and maybe Thanos and Malekith) who wanted to conquer the Earth or Ego assimilating the universe. Then I think about Arishem and I realize the absurd difference in scope and power. Like now, for every new MCU movie, I won't be able to stop myself thinking about how the villains are absolutely ridiculous in ambitions and dangerosity when the literal creator of existence is casually crossing the universe creating suns and galaxies like it's nothing
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My biggest concern with the celestial is if there are seperate Celestial per timeline or if they exist in higher planes we didn't really get into detail on that we just know they predate the mainline universe and nothing of where they actually exist themselves hell even Arishem just pops into existence at the end like he just teleported across the universe to earth
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"They're immortal, I'm also immortal. They're beeg, I'm beeg. They're stronk, I'm stronk."
"I must be a celestial"
"I must be a celestial"
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That's how Mafia works...
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Yeah, that's the "concern". The movie says nothing about it, except Arishem was like the only thing in existence before existence itself long before the multiversial war and even the multiverse itsel. Kind of reminds me of Chaos/Khaos from Greek Mythology. He simply...appeared from absolutely nowhere and starting creating stuff. Would love it if it was confirmed Celestials are unique beings for the entire multiverse
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We don't have enough for each celestial to even rank them we've literally only seen like 3, 4 or 5 if u count ego and quil
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All matter in a galaxy is 4-B. The Celestials didn't create the space
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Now that I think about it, the movie establishes Arishem is the one sending the seed on each planet chosen to give birth to a Celestial. Considering he was the first one, that could mean he basically created their entire race
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The question was asking about the eternals, not the celestials
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I think he was talking about Eternals ^^
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It's still so ******* weird Eson is small because celestials should be tier 5 minimum from how they're born alone
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Ok,If that were the case then there would be no space in the galaxies which clearly there is
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Maybe they can change size. That or Arishem and the others we see in Eternals are some sort of superior types (especially Arishem) and there are variations between them
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Even the Nova Corps thought that Ego was a Celestial by running tests on Peter
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Charlie Cox confirmed?
And also what Andrew and Tobey doing there with Tom
And also what Andrew and Tobey doing there with Tom
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Oh wait... On the topic of Knull in the MCU, I just remembered that Knowhere is already an established thing in the MCU. In the comics Knowhere was the decapitated head of the first Celestial Knull killed in retaliation for the Celestials ruining Knull's void.
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Well, in the MCU, Arishem is the first Celestial so at least that will be changed (assuming Knull ever appears in the MCU)
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Hum to be precise, they said his father belonged to a very ancient and very powerful race, they didn't exactly said he was a Celestial (though the description matches the idea)
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The headless celestial (that's its name) isn't the first celestial. I said its the first Celestial that Knull killed.
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Oh ok, didn't understood your sentence like that
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