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- High 7-As to At most 6-C
- Pre Ragnarok Thor level characters to 7-A to 7-A+
- Mark 6 Iron Man level characters to 8-A
- IW Doctor Strange to 6-C
- Reworked Iron Man and War Machine pages
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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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Huh I thought it would be higher, but whatever
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Still good I think (though I hope it will be better in the movie)
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Meh surely there must be some 7-A character we can use for decent matches
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OPM, MHA, Invincible, Naruto, One Piece. Those are some on the top of my head
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Nice, from what reason btw? Iirc there's some CRT a while back to upgrade Strange to 6-C but it failed
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You'll see. Too lazy to argue it here
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Aight
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Well, since i'm kinda "elitist" in term of verse selection, i would'nt use OPM/MHA/Naruto/OP that much lel
Invicible tho....aren't they too weak?
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They mainly scale to 300+ Megatons, so maybe not
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Eh, only AP advantage? Most of their abilities are too little you can count it with your fingers, and lack of versatilities
If you made 7-A MCU vs Invicible, it's an low diff win for MCU
I'm not against it or downplaying it, it just that's what i get from their pages
If you made 7-A MCU vs Invicible, it's an low diff win for MCU
I'm not against it or downplaying it, it just that's what i get from their pages
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No yeah the best things they have right now are their flight and shockwaves. Other than that they don’t have much.
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So did the Celestials exist before or after the Big Bang? And where do the Dark Elves fit into this?
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Possible before if they predate the existence idk
Idk how they fit honestly if marvel didn't forget them
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The MCU need to explain their cosmology
So far all I recall from the explanations from Thor 2 and Guardians 1 is that:
Big Bang > Infinity Stones > Dark Elves/Dark Universe > Dark Elves VS Asgardians/Regular Universe > Present Universe
So far all I recall from the explanations from Thor 2 and Guardians 1 is that:
Big Bang > Infinity Stones > Dark Elves/Dark Universe > Dark Elves VS Asgardians/Regular Universe > Present Universe
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Nah it’s more like
Big Bang> infinity stones> multivresal war>end of multivresal war>
Dark Elves/Dark Universe > Dark Elves VS Asgardians/Regular Universe > Present Universe
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WTF is this?
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Dark Elves
The Dark Elves (known as Svartálfar by the Ancient Norse, Älfeneel or Harudheeniksel by the Dark Elves themselves) are among the oldest known species in existence, hailing from the realm Svartalfheim. They are one of the mortal enemies of the Asgardians, the other being the Frost Giants. Some...
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Ginnungagap
The Ginnungagap was a plane of complete darkness and the primordial void that existed prior to the Big Bang. According to Asgardian lore, the Ginnungagap was an incommensurate void where light and warmth were nonexistent. In this vast space, the Dark Elves prospered, becoming the dominant race...
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?WTF is this?
Dark Elves
The Dark Elves (known as Svartálfar by the Ancient Norse, Älfeneel or Harudheeniksel by the Dark Elves themselves) are among the oldest known species in existence, hailing from the realm Svartalfheim. They are one of the mortal enemies of the Asgardians, the other being the Frost Giants. Some...
Ginnungagap
The Ginnungagap was a plane of complete darkness and the primordial void that existed prior to the Big Bang. According to Asgardian lore, the Ginnungagap was an incommensurate void where light and warmth were nonexistent. In this vast space, the Dark Elves prospered, becoming the dominant race...
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Did you even read it?
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I have the feeling it's more:
Dark Elves -> Big Bang -> Stones -> Universe
Dark Elves -> Big Bang -> Stones -> Universe
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And if the Celestials created all of existence, well that makes them even older than Dark Elves potentially and they might even be behind the Stones since they were created from the Big Bang
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Might also be the ones responsible for the Big Bang
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I did and I’m confused on what your freaking out about
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Because I was wondering if this was legitimate or not and therefore applicable to the Cosmology Thread
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Yep, they might even have shaped the Stones into... stones since at first they were singularities from the Big Bang...
So everything happened because of some Cosmic Gods...how fitting
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If the movie clearly establishes the Celestials are behind the Big Bang or the Stones, it's defenitely applicable
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It probably is, if I remember correctly Odin himself was explaining this in Thor dark world win discussing the aether and dark elves
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Cosmic Gods bored with watching Dark Elves doing not a lot, I guess, in a dark boring universe.
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The universe: *exists but devoided of light and boring
Dark Elves: *exist but do nothing to make things more interesting
Arishem: Fine. I'll do it myself. Proceeds to cause a Big Bang
Dark Elves: *exist but do nothing to make things more interesting
Arishem: Fine. I'll do it myself. Proceeds to cause a Big Bang
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Could this make them 2-A if we consider the MCU to be it's own multiverse?
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If they're effectively directly behind the Big Bang, yes since it's only later the Multiversal War happened with everything being reduced to only one timeline
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Does mean that Ego is the first/only Celestial born in the new universe/multiverse while the rest were in the "Deep Down Dark Deep"
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Possibly, Ego looks very weird for a Celestial, he is a big glowing brain where the others are cosmic humanoids
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Technically there also Peter and possibly the new celestial in eternals. But honestly I’m not sure there’s a lot we don’t know about them or how long it takes them to reproduce
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Likely millions of years at the very least if they plant a seed at the beginning of life on a planet like Earth and must wait for life to develop
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Likely this
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And since vultron is an threat to the multiverse and Watchers should know about them
Vultron might scale
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