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This could also act as additional support for the Stormbreaker CRT, since it seemed at least comparable to Zeus' Thunderbolt.
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MCU Love & Thunder Spoiler Thread
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4-C Stormbreaker ZAMN
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Also what power did that training bring out of Thor? Zeus surpasses the average Celestial and yet Thor easily breaks out of his restraints and overpowers his thunderbolt. No difficulty at all.
My guy went from getting overpowered by Thanos to making short work of someone who humbles Celestials
My guy went from getting overpowered by Thanos to making short work of someone who humbles Celestials
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It's consistent with what's being talked about in the CRT. The Russos stated that it overpowered the IG because it was more powerful than Mjolnir, which would be AP rather than Power Null.
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So we're just straight up jumping to axing the Asteroid feat and going to good olde powerscaling, eh?
Maybe this isn't so bad after all. We go from Fat Thor getting gaped by Thanos to Thor gaping the king of all the Gods who is above even a Celestial.
Maybe this isn't so bad after all. We go from Fat Thor getting gaped by Thanos to Thor gaping the king of all the Gods who is above even a Celestial.
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So we're trying to scale Thor to Celestials now?
Works for me, he did kill Zeus pretty damn easily, although that's still a pretty big jump in power even if Thor trained a little
Works for me, he did kill Zeus pretty damn easily, although that's still a pretty big jump in power even if Thor trained a little
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Zeus didn't die
Thor is stated to be stronger than ever before although the fact that it seems to be from a workout routine is weird
I fear that 4-C is gonna create problems in the distant future even if the characters being scaled to it right now don't create any problems
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I forgor
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4-A since Zeus is above the egyptian gods as well and would be above the Odin star shit which I say definitely has more validity to it now
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I think 4-C is safer since it's physicals while 4-A is from spatial manipulation
Maybe this warrants 'Possibly 4-A'
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Ah that's what u meant
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It probably will create problems later on down the line, but it seems to be the only thing that's consistent with the way that the gods have been portrayed in Moon Knight and how the Celestials were shown in Eternals. A "Possibly 4-C" rating might be the best way to go, but with this scaling it seems safe to say that Thor tiers have left High 6-C waaaay in the dust. And that's a good point about Odin's constellation feat. It would make sense for him to be comparable to Khonshu if not downright superior since he's the head of his respective pantheon
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It's okay if doctor strange even remotely harms Dormamu in DS3 then we'll have low 2-C strange
So high tiers from tier 4 to tier 2
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I don’t agree with scaling Zeus to Egyptian gods using 4-A hax that doesn’t scale to physicals
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I meean konshu is planet+ up to 4-A so
and if we raise the validity of the odin stuff then that's still tier 4
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Jane Foster
->Enters the MCU pecking order at 4-C
->dies
->Refuses to elaborate
->Enters the MCU pecking order at 4-C
->dies
->Refuses to elaborate
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Where's the Odin star feat?
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I'm totally fine with Zeus not scaling to the 4-A, but it would make sense him scaling to A) Khonshu being 5-B; B) Odin's star feat; C) the Celestials; D) Stormbreaker overpowering the IG beamI meean konshu is planet+ up to 4-A so
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Welp guess i have to update my CRT Sandbox now, proposition:
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Whatever works
Also we can use the statement of Zeus being the most powerful being in Omnipotence City and the footage of Celestials being there as justification
Also we can use the statement of Zeus being the most powerful being in Omnipotence City and the footage of Celestials being there as justification
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Neutral on whether or not it should be either solidly or possibly, but yeah
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The old odin star stuff was basically bunk because there were no feats like that in the MCU prior so they tried to say it's illusions and outliers
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It makes a lot more sense retroactively, thank goodness
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Yeah it seems to hold up much better now that gods in the MCU do star shit as frequently as actual *****
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This needs input
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Jane Foster circumnavigates Earth
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So, to make sure I understand, anybody that scales to the full-power skyfathers (Odin, Zeus, Ra, the other Egyptian gods, the average Celestials, post-training Thor) would be at least 4-C
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Celestials are 4-C, Odins star shit was calc'd 2 times to be 4-B, and the egyptian gods feats are 4-A
So they're all in ascending order funny enough
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Finally saw the movie and it was...relatively good. 6/10
About feats, it's less impressive than expected but it still has some interesting stuff. Thor gets Power Bestowal and Jane gets all Thor powers prior Stormbreaker.
Gorr is less powerful than he should be but he still has some pretty interesting powers. For me, he would get Immortality (Type 3) and Low-Mid regen since he easily healed from being impaled by the thunderbolt, darkness manip, life creation (for creating Berserkers) and outright Creation (for creating the cage), Animal Manip since he can control his creatures, Summoning (both for the creatures and the sword), Intangibility (since he can outright disappear into the ground), Teleportation through shadows
Zeus is more complicated since almost everything for him comes from his bolt. He does show he can restrain Thor and make him struggle at least bit, obviously has Low-Mid regen and Immortality (Type 3).
For the rest, like everyone here, I think he can get ascended to "at least 4-C" at the very least. The 4-A stuff is something Khonshu needed help to perform so it's too tricky but the 4-C stuff is safer for me. Thor's statement about Odin being superior to other gods, including Ra, could be very useful and out of all the gods in Omnipotence City, he's shown to be the leader, and that includes two Celestials
About feats, it's less impressive than expected but it still has some interesting stuff. Thor gets Power Bestowal and Jane gets all Thor powers prior Stormbreaker.
Gorr is less powerful than he should be but he still has some pretty interesting powers. For me, he would get Immortality (Type 3) and Low-Mid regen since he easily healed from being impaled by the thunderbolt, darkness manip, life creation (for creating Berserkers) and outright Creation (for creating the cage), Animal Manip since he can control his creatures, Summoning (both for the creatures and the sword), Intangibility (since he can outright disappear into the ground), Teleportation through shadows
Zeus is more complicated since almost everything for him comes from his bolt. He does show he can restrain Thor and make him struggle at least bit, obviously has Low-Mid regen and Immortality (Type 3).
For the rest, like everyone here, I think he can get ascended to "at least 4-C" at the very least. The 4-A stuff is something Khonshu needed help to perform so it's too tricky but the 4-C stuff is safer for me. Thor's statement about Odin being superior to other gods, including Ra, could be very useful and out of all the gods in Omnipotence City, he's shown to be the leader, and that includes two Celestials
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Read through the last page you'll see the potential scaling we're going with it'll surprise you
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Daaaang that's pretty solid
How would we scale Odin's 4-B? Just hax, I'm assuming, if the Egyptian 4-A doesn't scale to physicals. 4-C should be solid for physicals though for at least Zeus and post-training Thor. It's also worth noting that Zeus had very clear intention to kill Thor in L&T, as he thought he'd killed Korg and then stated, "You're next, Odinson," before hurtling the Thunderbolt at him. So post-training Thor > bloodlusted Zeus, not just a casual showing
On a slightly different note: the lore dump about Stormbreaker should also be considered within this new scaling scheme. When Thor is looking through Gorr's research there's a picture of Stormbreaker channeling the Bifrost in one of the ancient texts about Eternity. So even though when Infinity War came out it seemed like it would be an outlier for it to be overpowering the IG, it seems to have some tie to Eternity itself
How would we scale Odin's 4-B? Just hax, I'm assuming, if the Egyptian 4-A doesn't scale to physicals. 4-C should be solid for physicals though for at least Zeus and post-training Thor. It's also worth noting that Zeus had very clear intention to kill Thor in L&T, as he thought he'd killed Korg and then stated, "You're next, Odinson," before hurtling the Thunderbolt at him. So post-training Thor > bloodlusted Zeus, not just a casual showing
On a slightly different note: the lore dump about Stormbreaker should also be considered within this new scaling scheme. When Thor is looking through Gorr's research there's a picture of Stormbreaker channeling the Bifrost in one of the ancient texts about Eternity. So even though when Infinity War came out it seemed like it would be an outlier for it to be overpowering the IG, it seems to have some tie to Eternity itself
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This should work
It's via creation hax basically
Nope
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Already did and I liked it
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Also Gorr could have a potential 4-C feat too if he's actually moving the sun around the asteroid there
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Something worth noting is that Thor used Zeus's thunderbolt to "kill" him so basically his own power against him. We do see him getting freed from Zeus's restraints relatively easily though.
I think Thor might go "At least High 6-C, possibly 4-C" and Zeus would go outright "At least 4-C" (or "Likely at least 4-C")
I think Thor might go "At least High 6-C, possibly 4-C" and Zeus would go outright "At least 4-C" (or "Likely at least 4-C")
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So it wasn't me having bad view because of the screen and my glasses when I thought "Is he moving the stars around the planet/shifting the planet itself?"?
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Sounds good to me, then. Should we start an official CRT?
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I predicted tier 4 Love and Thunder, but I didn't expect it to come together this beautifully
