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MCU Love & Thunder Spoiler Thread
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I never thought this would happen in the MCU but I'm very satisfied
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Crazy how 3 days ago we were frustrated and complaining about the size of the asteroid and its results, now were scrambling to figure out how to scale everyone after the realization that Zeus > celestials and the possibility of Jane's earth feat being usable for MFTL reactions.
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I was so disappointed by the asteroid feat that I completely forgot about Zeus scaling above Celestials via statements
Then you lot discussed Zeus' statements putting him above the Egyptian Gods, then I remembered "Oh yeah, there were Celestials in Omnipotence City as well"
and then we scrambled to tier 4 scaling
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Honestly. It's an even better thing
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Imagine if I were right about tier 6 physicals for Wanda and America
The latter seems like it would spawn a bunch of bullshit
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Should Gorr have Dimensional Travel? He can go from basically anywhere to the Shadow Realm but it seems more like a planet with a weird effect on color than a full-blown dimension
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Thor L&T final battle but its a Yugioh duel in the Shadow Realm.
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yeah
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At the very least it should have Regeneration and Immortality Negation (Type 3 and probably 2 and 1)
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Type 1 not needed
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Then just type 3 and maybe 2 then
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Type 1 is just extended longevity tho
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Yeah so it's not needed
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Okay, so here's my "completed" version of the blog for Gorr (probably misisng several things to make it solid though) tell me what you think about it
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Gorr the God Butcher (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
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'At least Stellar' LS cuz he could throw Thor who easily broke out of Zeus' restraintsOkay, so here's my "completed" version of the blog for Gorr (probably misisng several things to make it solid though) tell me what you think about it
Gorr the God Butcher (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
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Gorr's LS should be 'At least Stellar, higher with shadow structures'
Thor and Jane couldn't break out of his shadow tendrils
Thor and Jane couldn't break out of his shadow tendrils
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Better like this?
Lifing Strength: At least Stellar (Could throw Thor around and was able to hold down Stormbreaker, as the Bifrost was pulling both it, Thor, and Gorr up), higher with shadow structures (Thor, Jane and Valkyrie were unable to break out of thendrils he was using to restrain them)
Lifing Strength: At least Stellar (Could throw Thor around and was able to hold down Stormbreaker, as the Bifrost was pulling both it, Thor, and Gorr up), higher with shadow structures (Thor, Jane and Valkyrie were unable to break out of thendrils he was using to restrain them)
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Can we actually use it though? I hope we can since yeah, it would be pretty solid supporting stuff
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Moving a star at FTL speeds is a 4-C feat
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No I mean, can we genuinely say "Gorr moved the sun" with solid evidence he did it?
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Who else could it be?
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I'd say seemingly moved the sun
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Kinda vague tho
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Yeah, but it can still be used for support
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Funny thing about Omnipotence City, they could have made Khonshu appear (especially since apparently, a line referencing Gorr murdering gods as one of the reasons Harrow was enacting his plan to release Ammit was cut during the Ennead meeting) but when you think about it, it makes sense that he doesn't appear; the gods there are living in luxury with no regard for the plight of their followers. Khonshu is definitely a very big jerk but he takes his job seriously so he's not gonna lay down like a lazy bum
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Honestly as much as I'd like to have 4-C physicals for the MCU, I fear that this is gonna cause problems later on scaling-wise if Thor ever fights anyone later on. Are they scaling directly to 4-C or is it like a "likely" or "possibly" rating?
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Scaling directly seems most appropriate here because the the statement about Zeus is direct and encompasses Celestials
We'll just have to cross that bridge when we get to it
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Idk we might be forced to employ the holding back shit that the comics peeps have to deal with.
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I think it's best we cross that bridge when we get to it
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Reading stuff on tv tropes baout the movie, here's what they say in their Fridge section
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- Have all the gods in Omnipotence City abandoned their planets or peoples? Considering that King Yakan's planet was invaded soon after Gorr killed their god (implying that gods who do their job actively help defend their chosen peoples), the presence of deities from the Aztec and Maori pantheons raises the possibility that the colonization of said cultures occurred because their gods had abandoned them and left them undefended. Granted, Bast appeared at Omnipotence City in the trailers but still seems to play a role in Wakanda, but the massive number of gods at the City interested in partaking of Zeus' promise of entertainment and orgies makes it very clear that Gorr has good reason to despise the gods.
- Zeus mentions a prize going to the god who has received the most human sacrifices. Either "human" is used to mean "sentient species" (which is itself unsettling)—or there are gods on Earth who are still demanding, and receiving, human sacrifices. It's possible that this refers to deities like Ammit and Khonshu, but who else could be receiving mass human sacrifices in the 21st century? Could the Abrahamic God be a contender for this prize?
- Well, considering there's an offscreen "god of carpenters" mentioned...
- Arguably making it more tragic and horrifying is this: what types of Gods are most likely to be outside of Omnipotence City and thus make up most of Gorr’s previous kill list? The heroic ones like Thor. Sif herself provides an example of the type of victim Gorr’s targeting before Asgard itself. Omnipotence City is likely a shelter for gods who’ve already watched their most heroic (or at least their most foolhardy) compatriots perish.
- The presence of at least one Chinese dragon-god among the audience may, in part, explain why the Great Protector wasn't consistently effective in the Shang Chi movie: either she's been left to defend Ta Lo without her fellow dragon-gods' aid, if she's divine, or the dragon-gods whom she would normally call upon to reinforce her strength were as negligent as Zeus & Co., if she's mortal."
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Ngl, 4-C sounds sus, but that would mean have to actually watch the movie...
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This
We should just focus on the current stuff, yes it might cause problems with later movies but nothing about Thor appearing anywhere is clearly planned for now, it'd be kind of useless and honestly counterproductive to try to plan for a hypothetical reunion showing him fighting other characters we're not even sure will happen in the near future (meaning at least some years) and ignore potentially solid and important stuff that can actually be supported just out of fear it might make things confusing
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Thor states Zeus is the most powerful of the gods when talking about Omnipotence City, and we later see two Celestials there
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At worst, we can go "likely" or "possibly at least 4-C"
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Why do we assume all average celestials are 4-C? Eson is a celestial and he isn't 4-C, and the celestials we see aren't even the giant planetary ones
