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I mean, there was somewhat of a solid case for it to be 6-C.Did we agree to make Cap's shield 6-C? Considering it's pure vibranium in the MCU it makes sense to be stronger than Vision or the wall Hulk dented.
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I mean, there was somewhat of a solid case for it to be 6-C.Did we agree to make Cap's shield 6-C? Considering it's pure vibranium in the MCU it makes sense to be stronger than Vision or the wall Hulk dented.
Either 6-C or High 7-ADid we agree to make Cap's shield 6-C? Considering it's pure vibranium in the MCU it makes sense to be stronger than Vision or the wall Hulk dented.
So the wall that Hulk dented wasn't pure vibranium?Did we agree to make Cap's shield 6-C? Considering it's pure vibranium in the MCU it makes sense to be stronger than Vision or the wall Hulk dented.
I'm pretty sure it would be a vibranium alloySo the wall that Hulk dented wasn't pure vibranium?
Ah, I see.I'm pretty sure it would be a vibranium alloy
At most 6-C seems a good tierAh, I see.
Very well then. High 7-A or 6-C for the shield, whatever you wanna choose.
WorksAt most 6-C seems a good tier
Thanos couldn't break the shield with his bare hands, he only managed to cut it in half with his copter blade and even then it took multiple strikes to do so.If the shield has feats/scaling to High 7-A (which I'm positive it does, I just don't remember off the top of my head), then the shield can have At least High 7-A.
The only people I recall scaling to 6-C are Thanos, Captain Marvel, and Wanda, and of those three the shield has only dealt with Thanos. If there are feats of Captain America blocking multiple punches or strikes from Thanos, it can be a solid 6-C. If its only scaling to Thanos is the time when Thanos broke the shield with enough strikes, then I propose At least High 7-A, likely 6-C.
But one way or the other I'm neutral to the tier of Captain America's shield, so I don't really care what tier gets slapped onto it so long as it makes sense, I'm just stating my two cents.
To be fair though, a casual punch from Thanos knocked the shield a few meters backThanos couldn't break the shield with his bare hands, he only managed to cut it in half with his copter blade and even then it took multiple strikes to do so.
An "At most 6-C" rating sounds more reasonable IMHO.
Ye but it didn't dent it now, did it?To be fair though, a casual punch from Thanos knocked the shield a few meters back
It didn'tYe but it didn't dent it now, did it?
ye, so the At Most 6-C rating fits.It didn't
The reason we used surface area for the Sokovia feat was because of the spine structure or something, don't remember the details, and also yes the calculation already accounted for the spine thingy plus the distance from explosion, which is why it's only 8-B when the original blast is like 7-AAlso IMHO the 8-B tiering for Iron Man Mark 43 and onwards is wack, we don't use surface area for explosions anyway (We use cross-sectional area, and that is dependant on how far Iron Man is away from the epicenter of the attack that took out Sokovia AKA you still have to figure out how far he is from the explosion's epicenter, or else it's null and void, and he was at the very bottom of the damn thing, so I doubt he'd scale to the full 8-B value, besides, he remained mostly untouched by the explosion save for getting pushed downwards a bit but otherwise no recognizeable damage to speak of), just keep him at High 8-C, 8-A at full throttle. There's also no indication that his 10 gigawatt AKA gigajoule per second (2.4 tons of TNT) reactor was replaced for the new models anyway thus making the 17.6625 tons of TNT value (73.9 gigajoules) for the Sokovia value for him a potential outlier, as he doesn't have any other feats on those levels physically when not accelerating, plus it's massively above his reactor energy level.
I agree with "At most 6-C."ye, so the At Most 6-C rating fits.
Using the formula on the Explosion Yield Calculations page and the cross-sectional area you calculated (And yes, this assumes Iron Man was 725.4 meters away from the epicenter), I get around 55 tons of TNT.The reason we used surface area for the Sokovia feat was because of the spine structure or something, don't remember the details, and also yes the calculation already accounted for the spine thingy plus the distance from explosion, which is why it's only 8-B when the original blast is like 7-A
Ah yes, the spine being vibranium and all.The extra surface area thingy was due to the spine structure spreading the energy out or some stuff like that
High 8-C Iron Man and scale Cap to him
Thor's feat doesn't involve him moving at all tho, Iron Man's feat does (It involves him accelerating at a constant speed for a full minute).Why do we actually include the 8-A on Tony’s profile when he explicitly can’t do it without constantly applying force for like .... a minute or something? With this logic we should just scale Thor‘s dura to the star feat and say his dura is X overtime rather than what he survives in a second.
Ngl that logic doesn't work.Why do we actually include the 8-A on Tony’s profile when he explicitly can’t do it without constantly applying force for like .... a minute or something? With this logic we should just scale Thor‘s dura to the star feat and say his dura is X overtime rather than what he survives in a second.
No, Thor's feat is temperature-based, Iron Man's feat is sheer KE. He eventually manages to reach a certain speed and keeps pushing the rotors at that same speed for longer than 60 seconds. It only takes 60 seconds for him to hit top speed after which he maintains it for even longer until he becomes certain that the rotor now has enough power to rotate on its own.Moving is irrelevant. Every overtime feat always gets divided by however many seconds the feat took so why is Tony’s any different.
If you want to keep the rating on his profile, just scale Tony to surviving getting bopped around by the rotor which is moving with that amount of energy.
I disagree with 8-B being removed as well FRAWe already made the deserved cast High 7-A/6-C
The 8-B feat of IM I disagree to be removed, it shouldn't be a outlier due to being higher than the suit power source, feats relying mostly on that factor is needlessly restricting.