Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Apparently mushihem is a Dyson sphere and it’s inhabitants feed off of the Star inside of it

https://www.fandango.com/movie-news...agnarok-from-jack-kirby-to-planet-hulk-752593

take this as what you will

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Well yeah i thought that was pretty established
Does it change scaling for something?

 

[Z's_Universe]

Well yeah i thought that was pretty established
Does it change scaling for something?

Me personally this is my first time hearing this. XD

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Well yeah i thought that was pretty established
Does it change scaling for something?

It was?

Maybe, I think thor might have cracked or busted threw some of the material

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Ya mjolnir busts threw some of the stuff of screen

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Apparently mushihem is a Dyson sphere and it’s inhabitants feed off of the Star inside of it

https://www.fandango.com/movie-news...agnarok-from-jack-kirby-to-planet-hulk-752593

take this as what you will

Huh, I never knew about this

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Question regarding The Destroyer's scaling

I'm assuming his tier comes from scaling to Thor because it takes two hits from him, but doesn't Thor also completely overpower its beam and no-sell the explosion without harm whereas The Destroyer was rendered inoperable by it?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Yeah, Destroyer has no business being 6-B. It should probably upscale from Loki at the very least

 

[Dinobot1996]

The Thor artbook describes the Destroyer's energy beam as being 100,000 times more powerful than Iron Man's repulsor rays (presumably Mark 6, the most current armor at the time), so it should be well into tier 7 at least, and that's if we disregard it being stated to be a physical threat great enough to challenge Thor.

It was also treated as being 10 feet tall during filming, so it should probably get Type 0 Large Size.

 

[Z's_Universe]

Huh, I never knew about this

The Thor artbook describes the Destroyer's energy beam as being 100,000 times more powerful than Iron Man's repulsor rays (presumably Mark 6, the most current armor at the time), so it should be well into tier 7 at least, and that's if we disregard it being stated to be a physical threat great enough to challenge Thor.

It was also treated as being 10 feet tall during filming, so it should probably get Type 0 Large Size.

If he's referring to IM's lasers, that would make The Destroyer Low 6-B+ (4.67 Teratons of TNT). Which is fairly consistent since the 6-B Thor feat is rather casual on his part.

 

[Lacku]

If he's referring to IM's lasers, that would make The Destroyer Low 6-B+ (4.67 Teratons of TNT). Which is fairly consistent since the 6-B Thor feat is rather casual on his part.

Where'd you get 4.67 Teratons of TnT from? Iron Mans Charged Repulsors are 858.435 Tons of TnT, that multiplied by 100,000 is only 85.8435 Megatons or 7-B

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

The Thor artbook describes the Destroyer's energy beam as being 100,000 times more powerful than Iron Man's repulsor rays (presumably Mark 6, the most current armor at the time)

That seems alright. Though does this affect scaling to Mark 6 Iron Man, because it did harm Loki and Asgardians who scale to him, like Sif and Volstagg, survive attacks from The Destroyer. But then again The Destroyer also completely disintegrated three Frost Giants, who scale to Loki and the Asgardians

 

[KLOL506]

That seems alright. Though does this affect scaling to Mark 6 Iron Man, because it did harm Loki and Asgardians who scale to him, like Sif and Volstagg, survive attacks from The Destroyer.

They don't. They were about to have their shit kicked in until Thor revived.

But then again The Destroyer also completely disintegrated three Frost Giants, who scale to Loki and the Asgardians

Like I said, only Thor has reason to scale above the Destroyer in any meaningful fashion. Everyone else was going to get vaped.

 

[Z's_Universe]

Where'd you get 4.67 Teratons of TnT from? Iron Mans Charged Repulsors are 858.435 Tons of TnT, that multiplied by 100,000 is only 85.8435 Megatons or 7-B

I thought it was referring to the lasers. The ones that are 46.7 megatons.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I thought it was referring to the lasers. The ones that are 46.7 megatons.

Nah, it says there "Iron Man's repulsor rays"

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Now that I think about it since maleith was going to consume the minis realms(get amped) then the universe, that would also mean he was going to consume two Dyson spheres

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

We could also scale mjolnir above rockets weapons considering how he views nidvallar

(1:56)

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also found this calc of Thor throwing his hammer
https://www.fanverse.org/blogs/mcu-thors-hammer-flies-into-space.37053/

it got up to high 6-a

 

[KLOL506]

Also found this calc of Thor throwing his hammer
https://www.fanverse.org/blogs/mcu-thors-hammer-flies-into-space.37053/

it got up to high 6-a

If it's the Dark World feat, I got it to MFTL+, so no KE LOL

I have to upload that MFTL+ calc one day.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

If it's the Dark World feat, I got it to MFTL+, so no KE LOL

I have to upload that MFTL+ calc one day.

It’s not the one your talking about

 

[KLOL506]

It’s not the one your talking about

Oh.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Oh.

Actually take that back it is, but how did you get mftl?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Oh.

It's the Massively Hypersonic+ feat that got High 6-A using neutron star material mass

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

It's the Massively Hypersonic+ feat that got High 6-A using neutron star material mass

That wouldn't be calc stacking would it?
Since it's stated to be made of it

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

That wouldn't be calc stacking would it?
Since it's stated to be made of it

No, calc stacking is take the values of another calc and applying it to a new one to get higher values

 

[Z's_Universe]

If it's the Dark World feat, I got it to MFTL+, so no KE LOL

I have to upload that MFTL+ calc one day.

Is it the feat where his hammer is shown by the sun and it's angsized?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Is it the feat where his hammer is shown by the sun and it's angsized?

Ya I’m pretty sure it is

 

[KLOL506]

That wouldn't be calc stacking would it?
Since it's stated to be made of it

It would be calc stacking if you calculated the mass and didn't get any official values for either speed or the mass of the hammer.

Also I think most mass values calculated for Mjolnir were bunk.

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

It would be calc stacking if you calculated the mass and didn't get any official values for either speed or the mass of the hammer.

Also I think most mass values calculated for Mjolnir were bunk.

How is the Mass section not usable? I know Neutron Star matter's density varies but so to does the density of rock and other materials we use for calculations.
That at the very least should be usable.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

We could also scale mjolnir above rockets weapons considering how he views nidvallar

(1:56)

I agree. It also applies to Stormbreaker

 

[NHTkenshin2]

We could also scale mjolnir above rockets weapons considering how he views nidvallar

(1:56)

Wasn't the whole snap argument rejected because of Rockets statements scaling to pretty much every cosmological event, making it unquantifiable?

This actually seems alot more straight forward imo

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Wasn't the whole snap argument rejected because of Rockets statements scaling to pretty much every cosmological event, making it unquantifiable?

This actually seems alot more straight forward imo

I have no idea

Yup

 

[KLOL506]

How is the Mass section not usable? I know Neutron Star matter's density varies but so to does the density of rock and other materials we use for calculations.
That at the very least should be usable.

Being made in the heart of a neutron star =/= having the density of one. It's not as cut and dry as the other calculations of buildings and materials we know exist in the real world. Mjolnir doesn't.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Being made in the heart of a neutron star =/= having the density of one. It's not as cut and dry as the other calculations of buildings and materials we know exist in the real world. Mjolnir doesn't.

It kinda is considering the implications of Stormbreaker and mjolnir

 

[KLOL506]

It kinda is considering the implications of Stormbreaker and mjolnir

I mean, this still has to be confirmed by the higher-ups at MCU that the hammers actually do have comparable density to that of a neutron star so uh...

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I mean, this still has to be confirmed by the higher-ups at MCU that the hammers actually do have comparable density to that of a neutron star so uh...

His litterly the physics/sicene advsior for the mcu, his pretty higher up. Plus nidvallar star has already been stated to be a netron star in universe

 

[KLOL506]

His litterly the physics/sicene advsior for the mcu, his pretty higher up. Plus nidvallar star has already been stated to be a netron star in universe

BRUH

Should've told me earlier

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

BRUH

Should've told me earlier

I mean it’s litterly shown in the vid I posted….

 

[Lacku]

His litterly the physics/sicene advsior for the mcu, his pretty higher up. Plus nidvallar star has already been stated to be a netron star in universe

Wasn’t there a calc. done of Hela breaking Mjolnir with the density of a neutron star?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Wasn’t there a calc. done of Hela breaking Mjolnir with the density of a neutron star?

I think so, I believe it was at small planet lvl