"Going behind their back" as in not telling them beforehand that you're planning on making a big revision on the verse, knowing that they're planning on making a big revision on the verse, too.
I wasn't even aware that BlackDarkness was making a massive verse wide revision before today.
I was just saying from his perspective, that's what it seems like.
Because a new revision makes things a lot harder for a new revision, which have to also take into consideration the new revision. It's not a rule, but if a revision is already planned than trying to rush another one makes things just harder.
Name one instance in that entire 100+ messages of that CRT where I PERSONALLY agitated you. I started the topic, you started the fire.
As a matter of fact, I do know how a talk should go. In a civilised manner, something that you refuse to show a hint of. Also, I don't speak for that entire CRT, look at just the messages only between us, I never once showed any aggression. Nor did I tell anyone to gang up on you, you did that yourself my guy. So yes I have the guts to tell you to sit down and take a breather, cuz you resolved nothing by keeping up that attitude.
Your GT Goku example makes sense.
1. Yes. You were arguably the least toxic person on that previous thread.
I suppose this is reasonable.
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If it was something that was discussed between the staff, then I might've not seen it. My main point here is that Darkness accuses me of being the cause of him being ganged on.
.1. I'm fine with just ignoring the feat.Okay, jeez I missed alot. Let me get voice my opinions real quick.
1. In regards to Jack's meteor feat the final hit that actually destroyed it is really all that matters. We have no reason to assume those previous punches did anywhere near the same amount of damage as the one that literally destroyed both Jack's arms. However if you insist the we can simply divide it by 14, the amount of punches we see it takes to destroy it, which would yield low tier 6 or tier 7 respectively, or we can just ignore it.
2. Lifting strength. All these instances are the characters "Struggling" in the same capacity that superman grunts when lifting cars or Thor struggling when lifting a large rock in Love and Thunder. Fiction tends to do this to make it interesting and more dramatic and I don't think it should be used to downgrade a character especially considering class K isn't that much of an upscale unlike Jack's meteor feat. Also to add credence to this Bryan Fury, who based on a quick google search of strongest Tekken characters seems to be a mid tier, ripping off a tank turret yields Class 100 LS, so upscaling to Class K based on a semi-canon film seems perfectly OK in this case.
Common feat: Tearing a turret ring apart
3. I agree with the devil gene multiplier not being usable, it's to vague of a statements
I thank you for being understanding.
We absolutely DO do this for other verses I can name 100 right of the bat if you want me to, if we applied this logic to every character on the wiki then half of them wouldn't make it out of Class 1. Superman does this, Invincible does this, MCU does this, along with about a million other verses.
I don't see what's the problem with just making the characters Class 100 instead of Class K.
I've done a few calc with steel density before and in my experience it's about double what you expect it to be.
I'll take your word for it then.
I'd say so
I'll personally contact some calc members to see what they think, but in the meanwhile, I'll share some thoughts.
As others have said, this isn't a reason to forbid scaling, unless the highest feat is outright contradicted in relevant instances.
It's not a secret I've never really been sold on those statements, but I believe they should be evaluated on their own, as they are already just a possibly.
I do admit Demon Jinpachi's feat could cause some troubles.
I'll leave Kazumi's ratings for another time, as it doesn't seem a really pressing matter, and this CRT already tackles a lot.
First, I can't find a calc for Panda's feat, so at most it should be redone and kept up to current standards.
This is also kinda weird, I must say, and I actually never noticed it.
I disagree with this.
What is UES?
Its far better to be done in better format, more details and all that rathen then with this and have more work due to it later, no point in doing one thing separately when its getting tackled along much more concerning around that
The KE last time is what concerns us and makes more sense in this case, especially with the scaling in mind that goes between mid tiers to high tiers to top tiers, only argument against it was that the meteor exploding and launching pieces which have no relevance to the meteor own movement
I would rather count it as at most [insert feat], also cuz of the scaling of the verse above mentioned to talk of in the future and other info that suggest tier 6 around that as support
More or less what i said above basically
Tbf tekken 5 opening was full on cinematic, similar with how the others look and are like too, tekken 7 especially when it transitions from that opening to the fight is clearly more in game cutscene and its visibly seen different and i think devs couldnt bother to develop 3d models that get busted like jack 4s in the full cinematic thing, tekken 7 re-used a lot of past assets, even in story its evident with many scenes
That will be went over a bit in the future
Honestly, i see no need to go over it imo or stress much to it, it happens from a physical transformation and storm relies on that, he generates it, simply as that
Same as above basically
As i said in previous comments, when i did the CRT for lifting i asked in regards to the class K if its ok or if there was a better option, you were present there too that time, it was given an ok on that
As said earlier in the comments about it, when they talk of the form they also show the stats difference it has in comparison, it makes a top tier look fodder in 1vs1 and a mid tier gets split in half from a simple casual step
Tekken 6 shows us Feng got the scroll he was looking for previous game without meeting Jinpachi, also it didnt amp him with anything either, only told him he gotta destroy other styles to reach his goal, so his feats are done under his own power, then reliance on outside sources
Went over the meteor several times so will just point to the above on Saman and previous comments to not repeat
Pretty much like i said universal energy system exists, cuz the verse uses ki with all characters
The ending says the area is vanished as well, so not just the temple, which scales vastly over the pile of Jack 4s going kamikaze on Heihachi too
Its shown on screen, not really stated or anything
That feat needs a recalc since it not accounting the location of the feat happening, i asked for one somewhere else and is bigger then the value on vs wiki
Right.
The explosion of the meteor has no relevance to the KE, why its assumed something that blows up which will obviously launch its remains away from its point has anything to do with the KE of the object itself
Thats common knowledge to about any martial art verse, are you serious?
I don't think it's reasonable to assume that Tekken characters use chi just because it's a martial arts verse.
Ok but like, why are you even assuming he did stop it, it's not like you can see it slowing down
Actually, I just looked at the Fallacies page and the Burden of Proof is on you since he asked you to prove chi was a thing in Tekken.
I'm not the one who made the initial claim so the burden isn't on me.
Oof.
