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I do have a question, what about namor being 4-B only with his trident?
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Marvel Revisions: 5-B to 5-A/High 5-A
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Just go the the bottom of the OP in my Fixing Namor thread as to why.
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What's so bad about using the 5-B Version of the Hulk calculation still, and maintaining the 5-B / High 5-A / 4-B balance?
I also don't think the Thing feats are so unreliable.
I also don't think the Thing feats are so unreliable.
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And what makes the 5-A calc more accurate?
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Which thing feats Matt?
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If the calculations are equally accurate I believe we should use the higher end.
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Why? The low-end is more consistent.
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Just a heads up, the Low 4-C calc of Hulk's feat was intentionally highballed to try and make it an Outlier and thus unusable.Cropfist said:
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Because what's more fitting with our scaling chains shouldn't be the deciding factor, at all. It should be what's more accurate.
This whole forced balanced in the Marvel characters tierings has caused more trouble than it's worth at this point and maintaining it by denying potentially more accurate results is bad on our part and potentially misleading.
This whole forced balanced in the Marvel characters tierings has caused more trouble than it's worth at this point and maintaining it by denying potentially more accurate results is bad on our part and potentially misleading.
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Plus, the feat is so blatantly above 5-B that I honestly have no idea how it was calculated so low. Moving smaller, less dense celestial bodies at triple digit mach speeds tend to yield 5-A results, but an Asteroid twice the size of Earth moving at relativistic speeds is only Small Planet level?
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DarkAnine makes a good point.
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I also think that we need to update the 5-B characters to 5-A. Kepekley23's calculation was accepted by our own calc group.
It is also possible that we should upgrade the High 5-A characters to 4-B instead, based on what DMUA said.
It is also possible that we should upgrade the High 5-A characters to 4-B instead, based on what DMUA said.
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For what it's worth I agree with Darkanine's point. The scaling chain makes no sense (I mean Hulkbuster is built as an anti Hulk weapon so why is he several magnitudes weaker then what Hulk is on an average day)
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Just because it's an "Anti-Hulk" weapon doesn't mean it's on par with him. Especially since Hulk stomped him, meaning the Hulkbuster kind of failed its purpose. They can still be upgraded for other reasons, just not scaling directly from a serious Hulk or Thor. But even a casual Hulk seems to be on par with other 4-B characters, so High 5-A characters could be upgraded to 4-B either way.
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Fair point Dark (More used it as an example but we agree on the meat of the argument I see)
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What are we discussing atm?
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Can somebody ask the following members to comment here?
Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Nether nine, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, The Archdemon, Kepekley23, Sera EX.
Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Nether nine, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, The Archdemon, Kepekley23, Sera EX.
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We are planning to likely upgrade the 5-B Marvel characters to 5-A by scaling from Kepekley23's Grey Hulk calculation, and possibly upgrade the High 5-A characters to 4-B, since they are not usually portrayed as that far behind the current 4-B characters, and Red She-Hulk's High 5-A feat, which is what we scale them from, involved fighting the 4-B worldbreaker Hulk.
We are planning to likely upgrade the 5-B Marvel characters to 5-A by scaling from Kepekley23's Grey Hulk calculation, and possibly upgrade the High 5-A characters to 4-B, since they are not usually portrayed as that far behind the current 4-B characters, and Red She-Hulk's High 5-A feat, which is what we scale them from, involved fighting the 4-B worldbreaker Hulk.
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We're debating the grounds for the High 5-A Marvel characters since there seem to be issues with the scaling trail.
I forget who it was but someone suggested the High 5-As simply be raised to 4-B.
I forget who it was but someone suggested the High 5-As simply be raised to 4-B.
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Thing has a 5-B feat of his own mind you
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I thought that was considered questionable though?
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Yes, it seems like the feats are questionable: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zensum/1_FF_Re-Calc
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