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I thought that only Anti-Man automatically weakens Sentry, due to a Negative Zone or antimatter connection, not Blue Marvel's Positive Zone connection. Or do I misremember?
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Marvel Heralds Rescaling
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Yeah you are misremembering. In fact, most of the world was being radiated with anti matter. Theoretically, he fought sentry at his absolutely weakest.
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Doesn't Ikaris (and those who scale to him) have some scaling from wounding Thanos in Eternals 2021? He definitely isn't on par with Thanos, or even that comparable, but he does wound him.
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When does Ikaris ever meets Thanos?
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Second issue of the 2021 series (you can find it online pretty easily). He does trade some blows, and the narration says he inflicts some wounds, although he doesn't force Thanos to put in too much effort, and would have died if he hadn't been saved.
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The thing about that is iirc they say Thanos is not at full strength so idk how that would scale.
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iirc there is an avengers comic that mentions Sersi is more powerful than hercules that could provide support for scaling and it would complement Ikaris' statement that his power rivals Thor since the eternals pretty much scale to one another
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I honestly wouldn't use that run for anything. First of all, Thanos is extremely ooc, and secondly, it ignores most of Thanos' powers. So, no shouldn't be scaled at all imo.
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Meh those kind of statements can land at high 6c too. But if I am going to rescale them from Gilgamesh, they will be 5-B so definitely above herc ¯\(ツ)/¯
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I mean isn't Gilgamesh like, way the **** stronger than every other Eternal?
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Just by a bit.
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doesnt he stomp every one of them in one of the comics tho :v
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Ye, but not that badly. Tho if memory serves right, the other Eternals have been shown as almost equal in most runs.
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From what I remember not to a huge degree and he does get taken down by Thena alone, though I can go back and check. Physically he is superior to most of them with Ikaris, Zuras, and Thena being close. Sersi has statements of being one of the most powerful Eternals and at least one of being THE most powerful one. I think Ikaris has some as well but either way they are shown to be pretty relative in terms of power.
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How about this for Gilgamesh;
- High 6-C, 5-B at peak
- And no one scales to his 5-B stat
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It's still bullshit to scale the team bruiser to literally everyone else, Sersi is the strongest because she is haxxed and Ikaris is the most versatile, Thena and Zuras are honestly the only ones to compare, and they too are considered physically superior to the rest of Eternals
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didn``t zuras fight zeus at some point
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Eh, idk, thena has almost always been shown roughly equal to Ikaris.
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Zuras did, yeah
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no but she got stronger
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That she did, but I don't think she got overwhelming more powerful, especially since we rarely ever saw her do anything impressive. So I am not sure if she can be scaled to Gilg
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Agreed. Kieron Gillen is also a terrible writer who self-admittedly strictly views art/narrative as a weapon, i.e. as a tool of indoctrination, slander, lies, division, and misdirection. He doesn't care at all about consistent continuity, entertainment, or characterisation, just about his own political agendas.
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Also agreed.
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Yes, Neil Gaiman was the one who started to mess up Jack Kirby's original vision, so The Eternals have been retconned a lot over the years.
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What feat?
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She blew up a planet in her binary form.
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Oh, that was a chain reaction feat.
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the original purpose of the thread has likely been concluded, now we are just looking into certain alternatives.
Also, I believe Binary/Carol can scale to Sentry and Collective's moon busting feat, however, at her absolute peak. The planet one can't be used due to chain reaction shenanigans.
Also, I believe Binary/Carol can scale to Sentry and Collective's moon busting feat, however, at her absolute peak. The planet one can't be used due to chain reaction shenanigans.
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What about my Ikaris query? I don't think I've gotten a response to that one.
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I don't remember. What did you ask?
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Whether or not Ikaris' fight with Thanos in the 2021 series has any relevance (someone posted it on the thread earlier).
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No. It was rejected
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Right, thanks.
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