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hmmmm... High 6-C to 5-B works better than just straight up 5-B since the others that scale to him have nothing close to that level.
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So which characters do you consider that wouldn't have to scale to 3-C?Not a fan of everyone jumping to 3-C, thor and surfer are 2 of the strongest heroes and they have a tendency to hold back a lot. Thor specifically will never go out against a mortal, which essentially means anyone that isn't a cosmic or god (and he even hold back against his fellow asgardians at times).
Easier to do it the other way around. Thanos would upscale from surfer and scale to thor (blood and thunder), and so does everyone who consistently scales to him (adam, magus). Then a bunch of thor villains like loki or the destroyer armor, and those who scale from them. Plus sentry, who shouldn't be used to scale due to his variable ap, galactus scaling above SS, ego from galactus and thor, the Phoenix gun from ego. And that's it, the others lack any indication that they can fight a serious thor/SS, some even got stomped when thor went all out against them. Drax and black bolt can work but the former clearly has a consistency issue and the latter would be depending on a single, downscaling feat.So which characters do you consider that wouldn't have to scale to 3-C?
Don't know what you mean. As the people scaling to 3-C right now have consistently shown to be comparable if not above Thor and Surfer.Not a fan of everyone jumping to 3-C, thor and surfer are 2 of the strongest heroes and they have a tendency to hold back a lot. Thor specifically will never go out against a mortal, which essentially means anyone that isn't a cosmic or god (and he even hold back against his fellow asgardians at times).
So I’m guessing 1-5 here scale to the Hyperions that scale to Gilgamesh?
- Blue Marvel
- Carol
- America Chavez
- Anti man
- King Hyperion - upscales from BM
- Hyperion (avengers) (he can upscale from this value and also scale to his own 5-B feat)
- Hyperion (squadron Supreme) - scales directly to Ikaris, if not above him. And has been a pain in the ass for non-4-B Thor.
- Hyperion (squadron sinister) - due to being a pain in the ass for non-4-B Thor.
Her High 6-C feat is from her as Captain Marvel though.Only carol's captain marvel key will scale to it tbh. Maybe we should make a new key for her? We do know that her power levels have increased drastically since her ms marvel days.
Oh yeah, it’s not like that’s the limit of her strength or anything, it’s just that all of the High 6-Cs get their tier from that (and Fin Fang Foom). So we’d need to rescale them too.Ahh... I thought it was from her early days.
Anyway, that seems like a pretty casual thing to me
it's not fine to do here, feats an outlier because Doom gets knocked out for a week doing it and its PISey as shit.Did a quick search and found a couple examples of Ben damaging Doom’s armor.
So scaling him to 6-B should be all good, and a majority of the current High 6-Cs scale off of him. (Also should this get its own CRT or is it fine to do it here?)
Huge number, wow.Second of all, two staff members approved of the idea of scaling from Doom’s armor.
Sure.Being derailing doesn't either, make your own thread over Thing tier and discuss this there.
Back to important stuff; I was thinking of creating a 5-B scaling chain from Gilgamesh, which will tie into Hyperion's 5-B (he will be the upper end of the chain). This could potentially effect the following;
I would also like for wonder man to be part of it, but I will wait and see what you guys think
- Gilgamesh
- Ikaris
- Thena
- Sersi
- Blue Marvel
- Carol
- America Chavez
- Anti man
- King Hyperion - upscales from BM
- Hyperion (avengers) (he can upscale from this value and also scale to his own 5-B feat)
- Hyperion (squadron Supreme) - scales directly to Ikaris, if not above him. And has been a pain in the ass for non-4-B Thor.
- Hyperion (squadron sinister) - due to being a pain in the ass for non-4-B Thor.
He also scales to squadron Supreme Hyperion. He was Ultimately killed but they were almost equally matchedI don't agree with Sinister Hyperion getting it if the only reasoning is "gave trouble to Thor", I feel like most High 6-Cs can reach that level with that logic
What do you think @The_Impress ?I personally do not mind an in-between tier of 5-B scaled from The Forgotten One (the Marvel version of Gilgamesh was later retconned to be a separate character closer to the mythological demigod, in a Hercules storyline) to characters comparable to him in power, such as the Hyperions, Blue Marvel, Anti-Man, Wonder Man, etcetera.
It’s fine idrmWhat do you think @The_Impress ?
Ask somewhere else, its derailing to do that here :VI want to ask, if Oblivion get BDE type 3, then what about TOAA? TOBA?
I personally do not mind an in-between tier of 5-B scaled from The Forgotten One (the Marvel version of Gilgamesh was later retconned to be a separate character closer to the mythological demigod, in a Hercules storyline) to characters comparable to him in power, such as the Hyperions, Blue Marvel, Anti-Man, Wonder Man, etcetera.
What do you think @The_Impress ?
This seems to have been accepted then, but we need to decide which characters that should scale to 5-B, and if they should get a "High 6-C when holding back" tier as well.It’s fine idrm