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I would really, really, really love it if we went back to the point: rational debate, instead of random fist-tossing.
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Understandable. You can probably stick to reading the first post summary of this thread if you change your mind. It likely needs to be updated though.Zark2099 said:then it shouldn't be called Yggdrasil upgrades anymore then, mate
I couldn't care less, to be quite frank. I don't have the state of mind to read through 3 threads of arguments and scan hunting to formulate an argument to be twisted and mangled by others
The outside in agent of asgard is the same outside in the ultimates (even th autor is the same) and silver surfer (2014).Matthew Schroeder said:People need to understand that the mere usage of the word "outside" cannot be automatically interpreted to mean "The Outside". This is the same issue as with the word oblivion being misinterpreted.
Surely you can debunk the evidence already presented to you instead of playing coy: The Outside exists beyond the Omniverse, and Loki ended up in a void outside the Omniverse after the whole thing collapsed. Pray tell: Do you have any better ideas as to what it could possibly be? If you have them, we're all ready to hear them.Matthew Schroeder said:Surely you can present factual evidence of that just as you can present factual evidence of other claims. Such as you extrapolating from the Chaos War to say that every void is oblivion and or the outside.
You're literally misquoting your scan here. It says "Forgotten sky void of stars". All it means is that there were no stars there.Kepekley23 said:Also, once again:
It is explicitly shown in this storyline that, when the TWSAIS summon Odin to the Outside in his dreams, the void is black. So the idea of using its color to prove anything is indeed super flawed.
How about an unspecified dimension connected to Asgard, as was the definition of their realm. Which shows that the intent of the original storyline was never to definitely say they were in Ginnungagap.Lightbuster30 said:Surely you can debunk the evidence already presented to you instead of playing coy: The Outside exists beyond the Omniverse, and Loki ended up in a void outside the Omniverse after the whole thing collapsed. Pray tell: Do you have any better ideas as to what it could possibly be? If you have them, we're all ready to hear them.
Nice attempt at a gotcha moment. All the scan says is that Silver Surfer is outside the multiverse as well. Which he was.ParadoxIndifferent said: