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Welp see yall in tomorrow to apply
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Marvel Cinematic Universe High 8-C & 8-A upgrade
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Lacku
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Welp see yall in tomorrow to apply
Lacku
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I think it’s been long enoughWelp see yall in tomorrow to apply
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Oh this already started being applied?
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Only with weapons I'm pretty sure
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Yeah their weapons are 8-A they are 8-C
ShakeResounding
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Through weapons iirc edit: ninja'd
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Scaling to Abilisk and Groot, both of whom are outright 8-A.
Seems a tad bit weird imo, but eh
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Applying time has come
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Nah they've been there from the start you can see a reply to that part from like 2 days ago
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Wait why was rockets durability upped to 8-A I thought he'd scale to 8-C like Quill?
Do I not know how rockets scaling works??
Do I not know how rockets scaling works??
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Won't this affect Quicksilver?
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It should
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Abilisk scaling lol. Rocket downscales just like Gamora and Star-LordWait why was rockets durability upped to 8-A I thought he'd scale to 8-C like Quill?
Do I not know how rockets scaling works??
Yep, though Quicksilver was already "Varies, up to High 8-C in super-speed". I just added "at least" next to High 8-C because of Ultron
Lacku
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Are we sure that they should be 8-A because of that though? Their weapons should scale sure but idk about their base power
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I'm neutral on scaling all the Guardians to 8-A physically, considering Drax and adult Groot generally seemed to be portrayed as being stronger than the rest, but it is true that Star-Lord took a couple hits from the Abilisk and Gamora did break Groot's vines, so...
At bare minimum, Rocket's energy shields should have 8-A durability for withstanding his explosives going off at close range.
If we are keeping 8-A physically for the Guardians, I'm assuming we'd probably have to dismiss Iron Spider withstanding being kicked by Star-Lord in Infinity War.
At bare minimum, Rocket's energy shields should have 8-A durability for withstanding his explosives going off at close range.
If we are keeping 8-A physically for the Guardians, I'm assuming we'd probably have to dismiss Iron Spider withstanding being kicked by Star-Lord in Infinity War.
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It wasn't what I was expecting to wake up to, that's for sure.
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It mainly comes down to Korath being able to withstand shots from Star-Lord's Quad Blasters, which could damage Ego's energy constructs, which scales to his this.
Gamora and Star-Lord scaling is because of downscaling from the Abilisk and Groot, both of whom scale to Drax, who scales Korath
If 8-A base power is too controversial, Korath scaling to the Quad Blasters can be considered it an outlier or sth, and the Abilisk can just be a stonewall (8-A durability but 8-C AP)
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Lacku
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I don’t think 8-A base power for characters like Korath and Drax should be outlier it just shouldn’t apply to everyone, why not just say that Star Lord being hit by the Abilisk is an outlier?
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Didn't see this. I guess we're either upgrading the Iron Spider and others who scale to him to 8-A, or 8-A GOTG physical scaling has to go
Honestly, if it weren't for Korath + all the GOTG fighting/taking hits from Abilisk and Ego, this wouldn't be an issue
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Just a question, but wouldn't Mark 2 to 5 Iron Man scale above Civil War Iron Man due to them being armors made for combat?
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Hard to say. The Civil War Iron Man armor seems like it should still have a superior arc reactor to those early armors (which had the palladium core), and the current 8-C+ rating for Mark 2 to 5 is backed up by both a 8 gigajoule (1.912 ton) statement and a calculated feat that gave results of 1.954 tons, which seems remarkably consistent.
Lacku
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How badly do characters like Star-Lord get hit by Ego because if it’s as egregious as with the Abilisk I don’t know what we should do. Imo I think the ratings for the Guardians should be like this:
9-C: Mantis (Jumping feat from Holiday Special) and Baby Groot
At least 9-A: Rocket (That’s the value of the explosion he withstood before the final fight in Endgame)
8-C: Star-Lord (Explosion feat), Yondu (Comparable to Star-Lord) and Teenage Groot (Killed Outriders)
At least High 8-C: Nebula (Canonically overpowered Bucky) and Gamora (Comparable to but is stronger than Nebula)
8-A: Drax (Comparable to Korath), Adult Groot (Held his own against Drax), Gamoras Godslayer (Can kill Asguardians), and the teams weaponry
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I'm pretty sure Peter should get At most High 8-C, considering he somewhat held his own against Gamora.
Lacku
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He did survive that 8-C explosion relatively unharmed so that’d seem fair enough
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Lacku
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Damn I didn’t know they were links to clips, and they get hit pretty badly so idk what we should do
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Agree
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That could complicate things, considering it wouldn't really make sense for Doc Ock's tentacles to be a couple dozen times more powerful than regular Spider-Men in terms of AP.
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I don't agree with 8-A Spideys cause last time we had a big debate on it on why they shouldn't scale to Electro
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We'll probably also have to remove the mention of Proxima Midnight fighting Gamora in the former's profile, though that shouldn't really impact anything, considering we only saw like a second of that as a background scene.
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