Marvel Animated Universe Discussion Thread

[Dark-Carioca]

Seems more like a feat for his horse specifically, which i don't think scales to anybody

I'm trying to think about it, like if I'm on a horse and extend my arm and grab something heavy, how much would it affect the horse compared to how much it'd affect my arm? It doesn't seem like the rope is attached to Knightwing but it's hard to see with him being so far away and much of the tank's mass would have to be lifted by the horse, especially in flight (lifting stuff in the air is always tricky business).

So does Knightwing have any other notable feats?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Yeah i guess it would be a feat for both of them, Dreadknight does seem to be holding his hand up, while if it was Knightwing doing most of the work his hand would be down

So does Knightwing have any other notable feats?

Nothing physical as far as i recall, although it has been shown to survive underwater

 

[Dark-Carioca]

My guess is it'd have to be stronger than Dreadknight

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Makes sense
also this line implies Grey Gargoyle has control over the duration of his powers

 

[Dark-Carioca]

"Ossification Charge", I guess that's the name of his ability here, you can add it to that blog

And yeah I get the same feeling from that quote, either that or it depends on how much he touches you, but I don't think that's the case

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

the "charge" part could reffer to the fact he didn't use the full power of it instead of that being part of the name
Ossification sorta makes sense as the name i guess, where should i mention it tho?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

"Notable Attacks/Techniques:"

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Done

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Things are coming along quite nicely!

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Living Laser causes a big splash of water... underwater
Could yield a nice result

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Yeah you can probably calculate the KE of that

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Laser also has a way more impressive feat here, although i'm not sure how to calc it

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Laser also has a way more impressive feat here, although i'm not sure how to calc it

Hmm, neither am I.

On the plus side, I found out what were those three suits in the gallery, I've added them as renders and given them the names I saw in their model sheet

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

On the plus side, I found out what were those three suits in the gallery, I've added them as renders and given them the names I saw in their model sheet

neat

 

[Dark-Carioca]

The model sheet had a better model for the Space Armor so I replaced it as well

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Yeah that does look a lot better
Also i think the rock throw might be the only instance of Grey Gargoyle harming Iron Man, should he be able to fully scale with that?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I guess he can be placed on the same tier as Wanda lol

Are you sure he doesn't fight him in other occasions? Or hurts other Hand members who could hurt Iron Man?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Nah i don't think he ever does that, i'll rewatch all his apperences later to make sure
There's also the fact he's been taken out of commission pretty easily by Iron Man or comparable characters a few times

 

[Dark-Carioca]

"At least Wall level, possibly much higher/8-B" then.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Updated the rating, does High 8-C to 8-B look good?
Also i should probably calc Grey Gargoyle throwing that rock, that could give him a much better rating than Wall level

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Yeah throwing it would help find a rating via KE, plus you can find better LS via force.

Since it's underwater, this will help.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Since it's underwater, this will help.

So calculate the weight and multiply it by 0.66?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Divide it by 1.5x based on his example "If Wa is a 10-pound rock above the water, it should weigh around 6.6 pounds when submerged underwater. If Wa is a 300-pound boulder, it will weigh about 200 pounds underwater. Looking at it another way, it is the water which supports one-third of the rock’s weight."

That's what I've used in my calcs anyway

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

We need an anime for Spider-Man with this suit

 

[Dark-Carioca]

wth is that, that looks so weird lol

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Divide it by 1.5x based on his example "If Wa is a 10-pound rock above the water, it should weigh around 6.6 pounds when submerged underwater. If Wa is a 300-pound boulder, it will weigh about 200 pounds underwater. Looking at it another way, it is the water which supports one-third of the rock’s weight."

That's what I've used in my calcs anyway

The page also says "Since most rocks end up with SG a little greater than granite, it is reasonable to use the .66 or 2/3 ratio as a general rule" right above that example so i think 0.66 would be more accurate

 

[Dark-Carioca]

It's almost the same, you could as well do 2 x weight of the rock / 3 and it'll give you the same as:

200 (assuming it weighs 200 kg) x 0.66 = 132

200/1.5 = 133.333333

200 x 2 /3 = 133.333333

I just feel like 1.5 is a little more concrete and close to just using 0.66, though if you divide 2 by 3 and get 0.666666667, then you get the same result as the above if multiplied with the mass of the rock.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Shit i'm stupid lol

 

[Dark-Carioca]

You confused me a bit tbh

I was like "0.66? I thought the text said 1.5!", then I realized what it really was

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Anyways
here's Grey Gargoyle throwing a rock
Could fragmenting the rock be calced to be used for AP aswell? As Grey Gargoyle would have had to throw the rock hard enough for it to shatter, or could the rock just be fragile?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

wth is that, that looks so weird lol

Basically a suit that inspired from Japanese Tokusatsu heroes series, Kamen Rider

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Could fragmenting the rock be calced to be used for AP aswell? As Grey Gargoyle would have had to throw the rock hard enough for it to shatter, or could the rock just be fragile?

Other stone objects caused by him fall from certain places and don't shatter, so some if not all of it shattering was his doing

Basically a suit that inspired from Japanese Tokusatsu heroes series, Kamen Rider

I can see the influences but on Spidey it looks very strange, like his logo is approaching the appearance of a grasshopper, the blue horn on his forehead clashing so much with all the red... Every time they modify Spidey's outfit so much I'm not a fan. Most of the MCU and the 2018 game's suits look more on the ugly side to me.

Even the Japanese Spider-Man didn't sacrifice that design by adding more unnecessary stuff on top, he looks like one of those weird action figures with extra armor and big guns xD

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Other stone objects caused by him fall from certain places and don't shatter, so some if not all of it shattering was his doing

9-A+ Gargoyle it is then
I guess low-tiers can fight batman characters now?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I guess xD

Based on the amount of calcs, you've grown quite attached to this series it seems

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I guess i did

 

[Dark-Carioca]

The flaws are pretty visible and it has pretty glaring problems if we wanna go all critical on it but as a kid I probably would've loved it tbh, I never got the chance to see it. The most Iron Man exposure I got was the comics, Spider-Man TAS and Hulk TAS

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Season 1 especially is very flawed, although it's ironically enjoyable
Season 2 is way better and i actually enjoyed it unironically

 

[Dark-Carioca]

That seems to be the universal agreement for many of these shows, one season sucks the other one kinda rocks xD

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

That seems to be the universal agreement for many of these shows, one season sucks the other one kinda rocks xD

What other shows have that opinion? Asking out of curiosity
Also i updated the Grey Gargoyle profile once again

 

[Dark-Carioca]

What other shows have that opinion? Asking out of curiosity

Mainly thinking of The Marvel Action Hour, F4 has this reputation, with Hulk people tend to like the first season way better.