Marvel Animated Universe Discussion Thread

[Aguywhodoesthings]

F4 has this reputation

Can't wait to watch it then

 

[Dark-Carioca]

The one thing they get pretty much 100% is Doctor Doom, the VA they got for him there is absolutely perfect, and they use dialogue directly from the comics which is a huge plus from me.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Nice, it's a good thing i found episodes in their original english dub then
I also have similar thoughts on season 1 Mandarin

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Not Season 2?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Season 2 Mandarin has a different VA, still sounds good but i prefer the season 1 version more in terms of voice (everything else goes to season 2 Mandarin tho)

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Huh, really, I didn't even catch the different voice, though it did sound a bit off.

I figured it was just the actor changing it up a bit, but I wonder why he left?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I have no idea tbh

 

[Dark-Carioca]

A shame regardless, I really liked his Mandarin voice.

Even if it doesn't 100% distract me from his weird alien/goblin appearance xD

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I guess it makes sense considering the alien origin of the rings?
Btw on Mandarin's origin, he should get healing as the rings healed his broken arm after he first touched them (honestly i think non-green pointy ear Mandarin looks weirder than his final design)

 

[Dark-Carioca]

In the comic book tie-in they colored his skin the same as a human's, like in the comics, though they kept the pointy ears for some reason.

My guess is they thought making him actually Chinese would be too offensive, maybe? Turning him green isn't much better, I think xD

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I don't think he's even Chinese in this show

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Doesn't seem to be, though his VAs seem to give him something of an accent, if we had the cartoon bible available we'd probably be able to know more.

Still, taking a Chinese character and making him green... Well, could've been worse lol

It may not have been why they changed him, they did have Fin Fang Foom in there after all, a character Disney is very afraid of because it shoos away all that China money xD

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I didn't know there was a reason for Foom not showing up in the MCU yet, good to know i guess?
Also, Mandarin's intelligence should probably be Above Average, he was an archeologist before becoming a green man after all

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Foom's awesome but yeah that's one of the reasons I've seen being thrown around for him not being in the MCU, they'd probably do what they did to him in Armored Adventures xD (or something worse)

He's pretty decent in TAS though, even if he was never really as much a follower of Mandarin's as he is in the series. I do like the voice they gave him, very raspy and echoy as provided by the great Neil Ross.

Also, Mandarin's intelligence should probably be Above Average, he was an archeologist before becoming a green man after all

I gave him Genius Intelligence given that he claims his intellect was boosted to incalculable extents, would that not be correct since he tampers with advanced tech a lot?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

He's pretty decent in TAS though, even if he was never really as much a follower of Mandarin's as he is in the series

Well Foom wasn't quite a follower for Mandarin in the series, they formed an alliance because neighter could destroy each other and Foom later turned on him in season 2

I gave him Genius Intelligence given that he claims his intellect was boosted to incalculable extents, would that not be correct since he tampers with advanced tech a lot?

Yeah i guess that makes sense, tho him being a former archeologist should still be mentioned

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Well Foom wasn't quite a follower for Mandarin in the series, they formed an alliance because neighter could destroy each other

That doesn't look like Foom, that looks like another Makluan

Yeah i guess that makes sense, tho him being a former archeologist should still be mentioned

aiight

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

That doesn't look like Foom, that looks like another Makluan

That's true, but then why is that dragon never shown in the series after this?
Infact Foom was supposed to be the only dragon who remained in dragon form instead of taking on a human form after the ship crash (as explained in season 2), so why are there 3 dragons here

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Inconsistencies, inconsistencies...

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

and retcons most likely

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Working on any other calcs, Aguy?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Working on any other calcs, Aguy?

A two
I was intending to add a calc for Century creating asteroids in there aswell but i realized how long it would be due to the amount of asteroids

 

[Dark-Carioca]

A two

I'd recommend also calculating KE for the mountain

Also, for the fire caused by the Living Laser, you can find the volume the flame covers and then sucker that volume as air being heated to a thousand degrees or so (some fires can burn as hot as lava, roughly 1200 degrees C)

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I'd recommend also calculating KE for the mountain

Done

Also, for the fire caused by the Living Laser, you can find the volume the flame covers and then sucker that volume as air being heated to a thousand degrees or so (some fires can burn as hot as lava, roughly 1200 degrees C)

Noted

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Noted

And granted, given the shot it may be a bit hard to calculate, but that's the only option I'm aware of

And I'm guessing Wanda might stay at Small Building level with regular magic, given how she can divert Mandarin's blasts with Energy Manipulation or something

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

She did also reflected a combined attack from Blizzard and Whirlwind back at them, and redirected Whirlwind himself while he was spinning
I think she could just be "Up to 8-B with powers" or maybe Season 1 and 2 Wanda could be different keys?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Maybe, it's not too crazy to think these superheroes trained in their free time

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

We don't really know what most of the heroes did after leaving Force Works in season 2, so that's a possibility
Would the rest of Force Works get the same treatment then?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Probably, tbh

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Makes sense
Although that could probably be skipped incase some of them don't have better feats in season 2 than they do in season 1

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Could the Mandarin have longevity?
Yinsen looked fairly young in Mandarin's flashback while he looked far older in Iron Man's flashback, Mandarin however doesn't seem to have aged much over that time

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Age made him lose his slightly stereotypical Chinese appearance xD

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Age made him lose his slightly stereotypical Chinese appearance xD

They also changed his name from Ho to Wellington
Unironically i think this Yinsen has a shot at a profile due to his importance in backstories of both Mandarin and Iron Man and also because he's shown actually fighting and using weapons and being fairly acrobatic for his age
Also Tony does a throw on Yinsen here not sure if that's very impressive but it looks cool at least

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Calced Century's asteroid feat
As Century never uses his powers in an offensive way this would only be a rating via creation/environmental destruction right?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Also Tony does a throw on Yinsen here not sure if that's very impressive but it looks cool at least

Doing that in that fashion might be at least Above Average Human tbh

Unironically i think this Yinsen has a shot at a profile due to his importance in backstories of both Mandarin and Iron Man and also because he's shown actually fighting and using weapons and being fairly acrobatic for his age

If you feel like making a page, sure.

Calced Century's asteroid feat
As Century never uses his powers in an offensive way this would only be a rating via creation/environmental destruction right?

Most likely, yeah.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

If you feel like making a page, sure.

I might make it once we're done with all the other stuff, Yinsen is pretty low priority atm tho

 

[Dark-Carioca]

For many of the characters, they have descriptions in their toy boxes that can be used in their Summaries.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

For many of the characters, they have descriptions in their toy boxes that can be used in their Summaries.

Good to know the toy boxes give info the show never bothered to

 

[Dark-Carioca]

It's probably info from the cartoon bibles that other writers could use as references for the characters' dialogue, but not necessarily the origin stories since they probably wanted to focus more on Iron Man and the Mandarin.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

It's probably info from the cartoon bibles that other writers could use as references for the characters' dialogue, but not necessarily the origin stories since they probably wanted to focus more on Iron Man and the Mandarin.

Kinda makes it strange how they waited 8 and 11 episodes (respectively) to give Mandarin and Iron Man their origin episodes
Even stranger is that MODOK got an origin episode before both of them
Maybe it's just a weird airing order thing

 

[Dark-Carioca]

They don't plan these out very well, they just kinda go "kids will love em"

The origin of the Hulk wasn't told until episode 3 in the 1982 series iirc