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Maou Gakuin No Futekigousha Downgrade
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wait what
there are countless bubbles
each bubble is a universe
thats already 2-A
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countless and infinite aren't the same thing. One is 2B, the other is 2A
Chasekilleen
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What's with the self-contradiction kek
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What a falseness translation
It use 無限/mugen that is not even word for endless, it is word for infinite
And this 広がり or word for expand/spread, that just mean possibility is spread out to infinite, there are no infinitely or endlessly
無限 広がり mean infinity expand or expand to infinite, not endlessly or infinitely expand. Learn again the word before you make translation
Chasekilleen
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?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? You just reiterated what I just said
What's with the hostility just because I don't agree with your hyperbolic views on 魔王學院???????
And my translation is correct, it's only incorrect in your view because it contradicts in what you believe.
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The current debate is whether these structures are 2-A. If these structures downgrade from 2-A to Low 2-C, there will be countless numbers of Low 2-C to 2-B.
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No. Layers were 2-A before kandaquizorte was even upgraded to 2-A. Its ratings would be unrelated to the crystal world.
Georredannea15
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Then I change the sentence to "if this revision is accepted, bubble world will be 2-B".
Is it good ?
I already talk about bubble worlds but anyway...
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What??? learn again the word, there are no word for endlessly in there
It use mugen the word for infinite
Translate this 無限, and show me what that mean in english
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Your translation is definetly incorrect
無限/mugen is mean infinite not endlessly, and you say is because my view it become incorrect. Translate that and show me what that appear infinite or endlessly
PrinceofPein
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Ah welp even though I am the OP, I am certainly not responding to everything, so I will respond to just @Tatsumi504 and @Deceived3596
but since there are a lot of stuffs going on, let me say thisbefore I take hours to reply to them.
1. Oppositions do not seem to understand the meaning of alternate timelines, this is given by the fact that they think that my infinite anos argument is BS.
Anos exists in these possibilities and futures, a very straightforward example will be this scan
So if there were a billion future and all of them has anos perform actions in them, if this futures were their own realities/timelines, it means that those anos in those possible future are actually existing physically. meaning in all of these realities one Anos exists, so yes the claim means there are infinite anos and infinite version of each character. Which is why I think it is BS
That is simply what your claims entails.
2. There is no statement saying that Possibilites are an alternate reality on their own already existing. and this is very important for the arguments to hold
3. My arguments is not that these futures or possibilities do not exists, they do exist they are just not realized yet.
5. The ability to see lots of possible future is a very common fiction troupe, we will not treat MGK any different. All that is happening here is seeing lots of possibble future and picking one, and oppostions claim that it means those futures exists
6. Just because Nafta cannot see a future in which she does not exists does not mean that she is seeing the future through the eyes of her future self literally, else ancient one and Dr strange would be 2-A too, since they cannot see their own death a future where they no longer exist. That is another common fiction troupe not something special
So all in all, my views are still the same, possibilities are just possibilities you need proof to say that they exists as alternate timelines for them to even pass to begin with, and now when we have alternate timelines, we have infinite version of all characters including anos existing inside the crystal, which would mean anos is stronger than infinite of himself who are in the future and equal to or stronger than he is.
but since there are a lot of stuffs going on, let me say this
1. Oppositions do not seem to understand the meaning of alternate timelines, this is given by the fact that they think that my infinite anos argument is BS.
Anos exists in these possibilities and futures, a very straightforward example will be this scan
In this scan we have Anos here exists in this possibilties, since Nafta could limit him to the one future where he failed to catch the spear out of billions.
So if there were a billion future and all of them has anos perform actions in them, if this futures were their own realities/timelines, it means that those anos in those possible future are actually existing physically. meaning in all of these realities one Anos exists, so yes the claim means there are infinite anos and infinite version of each character. Which is why I think it is BS
That is simply what your claims entails.
2. There is no statement saying that Possibilites are an alternate reality on their own already existing. and this is very important for the arguments to hold
3. My arguments is not that these futures or possibilities do not exists, they do exist they are just not realized yet.
4. I never said Nafta ability is just precog
5. The ability to see lots of possible future is a very common fiction troupe, we will not treat MGK any different. All that is happening here is seeing lots of possibble future and picking one, and oppostions claim that it means those futures exists
6. Just because Nafta cannot see a future in which she does not exists does not mean that she is seeing the future through the eyes of her future self literally, else ancient one and Dr strange would be 2-A too, since they cannot see their own death a future where they no longer exist. That is another common fiction troupe not something special
So all in all, my views are still the same, possibilities are just possibilities you need proof to say that they exists as alternate timelines for them to even pass to begin with, and now when we have alternate timelines, we have infinite version of all characters including anos existing inside the crystal, which would mean anos is stronger than infinite of himself who are in the future and equal to or stronger than he is.
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Even if it was "infinitely" it wouldn't change what the point of the translation is.
It's literally the same meaning. Thank you for destroying your entire argument. If you're saying "infinity expand" or "expand to infinity", then that literally means that it's growing infinitely, meaning it's not actually infinite, meaning it's not 2A.
Word of advice, stop trying to argue Japanese semantics with someone who's actually fluent in Japanese. You're not going to win
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Endlessly, infinitely, doesn't matter. The point is that it's not saying there are infinite. It's saying that the number of possibilities increases infinitely, which is a totally different statement
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Mugen means infinite. That definition changes with context and grammar. Duh
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Is there some difference here or did you just defeat your own point?
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Bruh i already give you that a possibility is different timeline because have different past present future, why you ignore that
PrinceofPein
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no, you gave me your view on the matter, based from your own heads to be precise
show me the scan where a possibility have different past, please
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Is i say mugen is infinitely???
Yes infinitely expand mean forever expand but not reach the actual infinite.
Infinite or infinity expand is mean is reach the actual infinite
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You said it means infinite, and then your interpretation of the text was "expand to infinite/infinity", which means the same thing as expanding endlessly, so I'm not sure what your argument was anyway.
You didn't say that though. You said "expand to infinite" which means expanding to infinity, or in other words, not reaching infinity. Basic highschool math.
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ok
First: Learn to speak a understandable english FGS
Second: You literally just disproved your own 2-A argument
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That's not how it works, you need to prove that the amount of possibilities is infinite rather than one possibility being expanded infinitely.
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What?? Veneziara is ability that use possibility
And arnos can use levine guilma because he use that abilility, and levine guilma is sword that will erase through all point of time
Is mean a possibility is have different past present future, because when levine guilma erase through all point of time, arnos move to other possibility for make he did not get erased
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Infinity expand doesn’t even make grammatical sense. The correct term is “infinitely expand/ing”, or “expanding to infinity”, or dozens of other iterations. They all mean that it isn’t infinite, regardless.
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@Fixxed dude you’re not helping yourself here with this translation argument. Just drop it because you’re making yourself look really foolish when you’re trying to go up against someone who speaks Japanese as well as prove their point with the infinitely expanding
if this 2-A argument is seriously made through a mistranslation then count me as solid agreement for the downgrade.
if this 2-A argument is seriously made through a mistranslation then count me as solid agreement for the downgrade.
PrinceofPein
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I do not understand what you mean here so I will be forward and say you are talking about a sword that can destroy ones futures, present and past?
How is that relevant to Nafta's? or how does that mean possibilities hae a different past and present
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Expanding infinite is not same as expanding infinitely. The different is in the wors of infinite and infinitely
Again and again i not say expanded infinitely, i say expanded infinite
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Thx for destroying your own 2-A statement.
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1. How are they even different in meaning? The only difference I see is that "expanded infinitely" is grammatically correct while "expanded infinite" is not.
2. Do you understand what I'm even saying here? The amount of possibilities needs to be infinite, not a possibility expands infinitely.
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Yeah, one of them actually makes grammatical sense. Man, just accept that you're being desperate or make an actually good argument.
As I said before, doesn't make any grammatical sense. So, using logic and understanding of the English language, we go with "expanding infinitely"
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Bruh even official novel like god of war use that, strecth to infinite or spread out to infinite or expanding to infinite is not same as expanding infinitely. Also infinity expand and infinitely expand is two correct grammar
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"stretch to infinity" and stretch to "infinite" are two different things. Infinity expand is not correct grammar. Not sure who lied to you when they said this
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What's the difference exactly? The former is an adverb and the latter is an adjective.
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What i mean the expanded infinity is expanded to infinite or strecth,spread out to infinite is correct grammar that even official novel like god of war use that
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Fixxed
Just take the L and move on alread
Just take the L and move on alread
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I've asked @Arc7Kuroi to translate that specific sentence to see if it's actually a mistranslation or not, but since he's a word i'm not allowed to say on this website, he hasn't gotten back to me yet.
But from everything i'm seeing, it's most likely a mistranslation, and such 2-A's probably gonna go, and get downgraded to Low 2-C.
So yeah.... here's the POV of the Maou Gakuin fans who are currently arguing for 2-A in this thread, courtesy of a ******* mistranslation
But from everything i'm seeing, it's most likely a mistranslation, and such 2-A's probably gonna go, and get downgraded to Low 2-C.
So yeah.... here's the POV of the Maou Gakuin fans who are currently arguing for 2-A in this thread, courtesy of a ******* mistranslation
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Infinite is infinity, you can see in this mugen is use for infinite and infinity https://context.reverso.net/翻訳/日本語-英語/無限
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God of War says "stretched to infinity", which isn't what you said, and that isn't what the text says. The term "to" isn't even there. I feel like you're just coping cause you're wrong. Chase's translation makes more sense with context of the grammar.
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