Manga Goku and Vegeta profile revamp CRT

[Antvasima]

Okay.

Is somebody else here willing to upload those Twitter images to the wiki or Imgur please?

 

[Spinoirr]

Some of them are already on the wiki but some aren't

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Spinoirr]

So I would say put them on imgur is a better idea

 

[Spinoirr]

Bump

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

Okay.

Is somebody else here willing to upload those Twitter images to the wiki or Imgur please?

Is Gyazo fine? If so, I can send them.

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

First Batch: (I can't send them all at once)

Goku vs Cell Image Training

Goku and Beerus' clashes

Goku and Vegeta training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta Training

SSJG Goku vs Hit

Whis explains why SSJG Goku is stronger than SSJB Vegeta

Please tell me if a link doesn't work.

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

Second Batch:

SSJG Vegeta vs Goku Black

Vegeta Overpowers Black

Goku explaining what Vegeta is doing

Vegeta and Black Stand-Off

Goku uses the Kamehameha on Fused Zamasu

Goku protects Trunks and the others

Vegeta says Goku has Completed Super Saiyan Blue

SSJB Goku vs Fused Zamasu

Please tell me if a link doesn't work.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

We need to reword the explanation on why they have that ap in the frist place to work well with the scans and make two more keys for Goku and Vegeta (ToP key and Moro arc key)

Also give write up vegetas frist and second key (BoG-RoF key and universe 6 tournament key) explanation

@Elizhaa @SSJRyu1 @AkuAkuAkuma @The_real_cal_howard @Theglassman12 @Super_Saiyan_God_Julian @Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou) @Zenkaibattery1 @LuckyEmile @Antoniofer @EMagoIorSouI @EmperorRorepme @Crabwhale @KingEzran @GojiBoyForever @ArgosaxDespair @Caleb3429

Would any of you be willing to help out here please?

 

[Spinoirr]

Bump

Now we just need to make a ToP key and Moro arc key (as well as a BoG/RoF key and universe 6 tournament key for Vegeta)

 

[Spinoirr]

ToP scans for goku and vegeta

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

Here are the first batch ToP scans:

Vegeta perfects Super Saiyan Blue

Vegeta states that he and Goku are equals

Goku about to punch Toppo

Goku loses to Toppo

Toppo stating that Jiren is stronger than their God of Destruction

Vegeta about to finish off Frieza

Goku finishes off Frieza

SSJB Goku vs Jiren first fight

Tell me if a link doesn't work.

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

Here's the second batch:

Vegeta faces Toppo

Goku powers up

Goku manages to hit Jiren

Vegeta powers up

Toppo gets blown back by Vegeta's power

Vegeta's new form

Jiren acknowledges Vegeta

UI Omen Goku vs Jiren begins

UI Omen Goku vs Jiren

Jiren powers up

MUI Goku punches Jiren

MUI Goku kicks Jiren

Please tell me if a link doesn't work.

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah i inculcated the flashback to RoF into there for scans showing RoF did happen in the manga

 

[Antvasima]

It doesn't seem like we will get enough help here.

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

It doesn't seem like we will get enough help here.

I believe I can add it. I would just need to know what to add as well as the justifications for the tiers and the tiers themselves.

If all this is met then I can probably add it either tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you, but have we reached sufficiently clear conclusions here for that yet?

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

Thank you, but have we reached sufficiently clear conclusions here for that yet?

I'll review the thread and create a summary of what needs to be applied either later or tomorrow, but if someone else is willing to make a summary that would be appreciated.

I'll inform you if there haven't been any sufficient conclusions yet for me to apply and I'll wait for further discussion for now before creating a summary.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Spinoirr]

Bump

 

[Peter1129]

So a question didn't Goku Black become comparable to SSB Vegeta as a SS1 in the manga after a bunch of zenkais? And after the time chamber training Vegeta can overpower SS Rose Goku Black by switching back and forth between God and Blue. So doesn’t that mean at this point their Super Saiyan form should be 3-B since Vegeta’s Blue form can damage Black’s Rose form which means his Super Saiyan form should be comparable to Black’s Super Saiyan form?

 

[Spinoirr]

He actually did become comparable to blue Vegeta in ssj after just one zenkai

 

[Spinoirr]

So a question didn't Goku Black become comparable to SSB Vegeta as a SS1 in the manga after a bunch of zenkais? And after the time chamber training Vegeta can overpower SS Rose Goku Black by switching back and forth between God and Blue. So doesn’t that mean at this point their Super Saiyan form should be 3-B since Vegeta’s Blue form can damage Black’s Rose form which means his Super Saiyan form should be comparable to Black’s Super Saiyan form?

Yeah that's a fair point and adds up with Goku and vegeta liveing from getting tortured by god zamas (aka fused zamasu)

 

[Peter1129]

Yeah after the training their base form should downscale from their Super Saiyan form which would make them somewhere around tier 3. Not sure if they are 3-C or 3-B though as I have no clue what 3-B value they scale to. And all their other forms upscale from their SS1 which is now on par with or stronger than their SSB from the previous arc.

 

[Spinoirr]

Probably

"multi-galaxy level in base and in ssj forms with multi-galaxy level+ with god forms"

 

[Peter1129]

Can you even do that? By that I mean upscaling to 3-B+ from an unknown lvl of 3-B with no feats, calcs, or scaling.

 

[Spinoirr]

Or at least galaxy level in base, normal ssj forms, at least multi-galaxy level with god forms

 

[Rez]

Can you even do that? By that I mean upscaling to 3-B+ from an unknown lvl of 3-B.

Dragon Ball super manga Goku and Vegeta Scales to 3-B because of an borderline 3-A feat

 

[Peter1129]

I thought their 3-B was just an unknown lvl of 3-B or just unquantifiably stronger than baseline since there’s no calc that shows how strong they are?

 

[Spinoirr]

You would think after so many arc they would be 3-A by now

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

Are there any scans for the Moro arc? They're the only ones that are missing.

Edit: Also how will this affect their powers and abilities section?

 

[Spinoirr]

This probably won't affect their powers and abilities section however we need to talk about what tier their base forms should be after the "post Goku black arc training" key

 

[Spinoirr]

Are there any scans for the Moro arc? They're the only ones that are missing.

Edit: Also how will this affect their powers and abilities section?

I will get them possibly tomorrow

 

[Cosmic_King_of_SAO]

This probably won't affect their powers and abilities section however we need to talk about what tier their base forms should be after the "post Goku black arc training" key

Thank goodness I was afraid I was going to edit their powers and abilities as well.

I'll wait for further discussion about their post Goku Black arc key before making the changes then.

 

[Spinoirr]

So a question didn't Goku Black become comparable to SSB Vegeta as a SS1 in the manga after a bunch of zenkais? And after the time chamber training Vegeta can overpower SS Rose Goku Black by switching back and forth between God and Blue. So doesn’t that mean at this point their Super Saiyan form should be 3-B since Vegeta’s Blue form can damage Black’s Rose form which means his Super Saiyan form should be comparable to Black’s Super Saiyan form?

So can someone make a separate CRT for this and everything here can getting added as we can edit the base forms ap latter

 

[Spinoirr]

Bump

 

[BetterThanYou]

Well vegeta will need another key for his destroyer form. But we should wait until the next chapter.

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah they need a granola arc key after their Moro arc key
But that's after this arc is over or at least until time skip or something

 

[Spinoirr]

Alright who can help make a key for ToP Goku and Vegeta

 

[Vietthai96]

Missed this CRT, i think Vegeta's hax should change from Fusion Negation & Absorption Negation to Purification (Type 1 and 2)