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Manga Goku and Vegeta base form, ssj form upgrade
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I'm not knowledgeable on what happens in the manga, but I think it was mostly SomebodyData was the one who made the most sense last I checked.
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Okay.
@SamanPatou @LordGriffin1000 @DemonGodMitchAubin @UchihaSlayer96
Would you be willing to help out here again as well?
@SamanPatou @LordGriffin1000 @DemonGodMitchAubin @UchihaSlayer96
Would you be willing to help out here again as well?
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I really can't give much input on the scaling since I'm not familiar enough with the Manga.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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SD still did not answered to my argument, nor any of the other staff members address it themselves.
We should at least let SD respond to the arguments as there's still discussion about this
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I know this thread is kind of dead, but I have a similar section as to why Goku should be 3-B on a thread for adding more Chou profiles. Here are my thoughts:
- Goku could have God Ki, but it's not 100%
- 4-B to 3-B does not have a gap of >>>trillions according to Akira Toriyama's storytelling. Akira Toriyama obviously doesn't know the huge gap between 4-B and 3-B, therefore it is not unreasonable to assume Goku couldn't climb the ladder
- Just because there is a flashback to Resurrection F doesn't mean it's canon to the story, heck there's even a mini series dedicated to the story of Resurrection F (at least before Golden Frieza is revealed)
- Goku Black scaling makes a good point
- Moro Arc 100% has a 3-B Goku, with no doubts, as Vegeta and Goku should at least scale to above Piccolo in his base form, as Piccolo stopped being able to catch up to both Goku and Vegeta long ago, which is proven by Goku effortlessly damaging a powered-up Sangabo while in base, who scales >>>>>>Android 17, Android 18, Piccolo, Gohan, and Jaco, with all of them not even being able to damage Sangabo. It’s also stated that Goku’s Ki has reached Godly heights, so he’s very likely 3-B because of that. Here is the profiles for Android 17, Android 18, Piccolo, and Gohan btw
- Goku is also known as the strongest in the universe in the Granolah Saga, which we also know that Dragon Ball Super: Broly is canon, meaning that in some way, shape, or form, Goku is stronger than Broly. Whether it be his base is stronger than Broly’s base or his SSB is stronger than his SSJ Full Power.
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Broly Movie should likely be treated as secondary canon as opposed to main evidence, however, this is a good supporting arguement
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@SomebodyData
I would appreciate some further help from you regarding what we should do here. Thank you.
I would appreciate some further help from you regarding what we should do here. Thank you.
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I'll make another CTR thread on why Moro Arc should be 3-B assuming that this specific thread is denied, as it's different from OP
Gilad_Hyperstar
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No. SD still have yet to answer
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yeah. At the very least they should address these argument since he was the one that argued against my points in the first place
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Check SomebodyData's profile posts. They're apparently gonna be gone until December so they can't do anything more for this thread, so the main person who contradicted this argument is gone, what should we do here?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Oh. If so, then maybe we should wait until SD returns. That or the other staff members that agreed with SD will answer the arguments I made too, though maybe the first option would work better
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Alright. Since it's going to take a bit, today/tomorrow i'll make another CRT which has proof that Base Goku is 3-B in the Moro Arc, and maybe before it.
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We should close this thread first if so, but I don't recommend it.
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Goku being 3-B in the Moro Arc wouldn't change this CTR at all, as it isn't a matter of God Ki, it's only a matter of simple scaling in my own CRT.
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No, his base power would be 3-B in the Moro Arc due to scaling to Gohan and Piccolo
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Why would he ever scale to gohan and piccolo? You know what do whatever you want I'll spectate.
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I'll mention it in the CRT, but I have several pieces of evidence including him consistently scaling above Piccolo in many arcs, including the Universe 6 arc, in just Super Saiyan and has been doing so consistently since he first went Super Saiyan as my weakest point
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Okay, so what are the other staff conclusions here so far?
