Mami Tomoe verses Medaka Kurokami

[The_King_of_Prudence]

6-C Mami, 5-C Medaka.

Mami: 1 (Gargoyle One)

Medaka: 1 (Monarch Laciel)

Inconclusive:

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Who's?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Someone close this

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Please don't.

 

[Schnee_One]

Against my better judgement I'm replying here.

Either Mami mindhaxes or Medaka Stomps via everything

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Medaka is less likely to use "hax" in-character.

 

[Huesito88]

Speed isn't equalized

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Should it be?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Equalize or Medaka blitzes

 

[Schnee_One]

Should it be?

FTL vs MHS?

Perhaps

Also not sure how fast Holy Mami is compared to her magical girl counter part

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Mami: >>Mach 619.59 (higher still as the Doppel of Worship )

Medaka: >SoL

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Remind me again what Mami's mind hax consists of?

 

[Schnee_One]

She can do whatever with it, but most potently control

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Could she make Medaka kill herself?

 

[Schnee_One]

She could but she'll likely go for incap

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Doesn't Medaka resist?

 

[Schnee_One]

Does she resist someone who is>>>>>>>>>An entire castle of people?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

No, should I call that a vote for Mami?

 

[Schnee_One]

No because speed isn't equal and it's a stomp

 

[Agnaa]

If Medaka is mind manipped but not memory wiped (i.e. if she still remembers that she has her abilities), she should be able to brainwash herself back to normal.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Only if Mami lets her.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Doesn't Medaka in-character allow herself to take in the first hit?

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

I'm suprised "Ribbons GG" hasn't been brought up yet.

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm suprised "Ribbons GG" hasn't been brought up yet.

Is there a reason they should be?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Doesn't Medaka in-character allow herself to take in the first hit?

Nah, that's the "Jokers" as Zenkichi called them, Kumagawa, Ajimu, Shiranui, etc.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

No that's Medaka too.

 

[Agnaa]

Only if Mami lets her.

No, I mean in character if she's brainwashed but still remembers her abilities, even if the controller doesn't will it, she can brainwash herself out. That's why she has resistance to mind manipulation.

 

[SomebodyData]

Is the resistance high enough to counter Mami's mind manip?

Also why is this thread even a thing, should I hakai?

 

[Schnee_One]

I'll never understand how someone brainwashes them self so they aren't mindhaxed

While mindhaxed.

 

[SomebodyData]

Must have been terrible mind hax ig.

 

[Schnee_One]

if?

 

[SomebodyData]

"if?"?

 

[Agnaa]

Is the resistance high enough to counter Mami's mind manip?

Also why is this thread even a thing, should I hakai?

I'm not sure, does Mami's mind manip ever work on people who can mind manip themselves out of mind manip?

The mindhax didn't seem terrible, it worked on others fine.

@Gargoyle One A lot of shit in fiction doesn't make sense, how can you erase something from nonexistence, wouldn't they just exist again?

Fiction makes tons of nonsensical claims, but we have to roll with them and try to incorporate them.

 

[SomebodyData]

No but her mind hax > someone who mind haxes a fortress' worth of people, so it should be far superior

I'm 90% sure she just had a slight resistance to mind hax that let her temporarily overcome it and thus de-mind manip herself from that from what you're saying.

 

[Agnaa]

Why does the AoE matter for resistance? Shouldn't it just be how potent the hax is? Someone who can EE a planet's worth of people doesn't automatically overpower someone who resisted EE from someone who only EEs one person at a time.

That is probably what we should take it as, yeah.

 

[Schnee_One]

"if?"?

Autocorrect

What's Ig?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Mami can mindhax someone who have a resistance to mindhax on that scale.

 

[Schnee_One]

Why does the AoE matter for resistance? Shouldn't it just be how potent the hax is? Someone who can EE a planet's worth of people doesn't automatically overpower someone who resisted EE from someone who only EEs one person at a time.

That is probably what we should take it as, yeah.

Mindhaxing a planet of people is objectively better then mindhaxing one

That is potency

Not like it matters since Medaka's resistance is basic brain washing

 

[SomebodyData]

"I guess" @Gargoyle

 

[Schnee_One]

Mami can mindhax someone who have a resistance to mindhax on that scale.

When was this?