Major Mortal Kombat Revision, Part I

[KLOL506]

Done

I contacted a bunch of calc group members beforehand.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Now we wait

 

[Hellbeast]

So would this affect any ratings?

If accepted of course lmao

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Ofc it will. Either they end up high into High 8-C or be at the lower end of 8-A

 

[KLOL506]

Ofc it will. Either they end up high into High 8-C or be at the lower end of 8-A

maybe the 8-A can be used as a "possibly" rating.

 

[Antvasima]

What still needs to be decided here?

 

[KLOL506]

What still needs to be decided here?

I made a new calc for Mortal Kombat which will affect the ratings of the god-tiers. I have notified several calc members about it as well.

 

[KLOL506]

Armorchompy replied on the blog, says that pulv. is fine.

That being said however, I also asked DMUA and Spino beforehand, just in case.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. What has been accepted can probably be used then.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

So they're still High 8-C but on the higher end now, nice.

 

[KLOL506]

Thank you. What has been accepted can probably be used then.

Armorchompy accepted both calcs on the blog.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

The dive bomb feat can be used as a supporting feat even if it's lower than God Liu's better feats (which is extremely casual and performed in a place that weakened Raiden)

 

[KLOL506]

The dive bomb feat can be used as a supporting feat even if it's lower than God Liu's better feats (which is extremely casual and performed in a place that weakened Raiden)

I mean, the dive bomb feat can be used as a support for Liu Kang being casual since it's pretty high-end 8-C.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

You mentioned two other people to look at your calc right? What did they say about it?

 

[KLOL506]

You mentioned two other people to look at your calc right? What did they say about it?

DMUA and Spino? They haven't responded yet but now that Armor got to it first, I'm pretty sure they'll just say Armor's eval should be enough. Even though I contacted them first LOL.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Well that should be enough to apply it to the pages then.

I believe this would apply to the god tiers only right? Raiden's floor crushing feat was done before he fused with Liu, and God Liu has the combined strength of two versions of himself and Raiden. They're still At least High 8-C, likely far higher

 

[KLOL506]

Well that should be enough to apply it to the pages then.

I believe this would apply to the god tiers only right? Raiden's floor crushing feat was done before he fused with Liu, and God Liu has the combined strength of two versions of himself and Raiden. They're still At least High 8-C, likely far higher

Yeah.

 

[Antvasima]

You can probably apply it, yes.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I applied it to Liu Kang's page for now

 

[KLOL506]

I applied some fixes and added additional links to Fujin's feat.

 

[KLOL506]

BTW, I see no speed value for Raiden's Hypersonic+ calc, I only see his AP calc. Did you mix up his speed calcs somewhere?

EDIT: Found it, but don't we have a rule against X-Rays or something unless they're canonically shown?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

BTW, I see no speed value for Raiden's Hypersonic+ calc, I only see his AP calc. Did you mix up his speed calcs somewhere?

EDIT: Found it, but don't we have a rule against X-Rays or something unless they're canonically shown?

I think the rule only applied if it was an outlier for those characters. Cetrion is the biggest example (pun intended) of this, since one of her finishers has her grow large enough to be seen from outer space which is calced at 5-A. I agreed to not using this, but personally I think that with enough evidence, she might regain that tier.

For Raiden though, it's consistent with his powers over lightning and Sub-Zero's Hypersonic+ slide feat in a feat in the MKX comics that isn't retconned.

 

[KLOL506]

I think the rule only applied if it was an outlier for those characters. Cetrion is the biggest example (pun intended) of this, since one of her finishers has her grow large enough to be seen from outer space which is calced at 5-A. I agreed to not using this, but personally I think that with enough evidence, she might regain that tier.

For Raiden though, it's consistent with his powers over lightning and Sub-Zero's Hypersonic+ slide feat in a feat in the MKX comics that isn't retconned.

Oh, I totally forgot about Sub-Zero's feat of outrunning a big boom.

 

[KLOL506]

I think the rule only applied if it was an outlier for those characters. Cetrion is the biggest example (pun intended) of this, since one of her finishers has her grow large enough to be seen from outer space which is calced at 5-A. I agreed to not using this, but personally I think that with enough evidence, she might regain that tier.

For Raiden though, it's consistent with his powers over lightning and Sub-Zero's Hypersonic+ slide feat in a feat in the MKX comics that isn't retconned.

Now that I think about it, Fujin's wind speed feat would also be consistent with this. It should be safe to assume that Fujin should at the very least be comparable in travel speed to his own basic wind attacks.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Now that I think about it, Fujin's wind speed feat would also be consistent with this. It should be safe to assume that Fujin should at the very least be comparable in travel speed to his own basic wind attacks.

Ah yes, I forgot about that as well. But Raiden and Sub-Zero's feat should be enough since most of the time feats>everything else. But it's still good as supporting evidence.

 

[Antvasima]

So what is left to do here?

 

[KLOL506]

So what is left to do here?

From what I can see, it seems like no calc group member has evaluated Bambu's blogs yet. So far only Scorpion's calc has been added to Scorpion's profile.

 

[Antvasima]

Perhaps you could evaluate it, in lack of better options? You are an honorary calc group member after all.

 

[KLOL506]

Perhaps you could evaluate it, in lack of better options? You are an honorary calc group member after all.

Well mathematically speaking Bambu's calcs are fine but I'd feel safer if another calc group member evaluates it as well. I'll see who I can find.

 

[KLOL506]

I've given my evaluation. I'll contact my other fellow calcmates just in case.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you.

 

[KLOL506]

I've asked Armorchompy once again. Once he gives his evaluation, that pretty much should be enough to go with Bambu's blog.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you. The calc group members haven't consistently helped out when I have asked them with notifications recently.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

So what is left to do here?

Just adding stuff to the profiles, all other discussion here is not really related to new revisions.

Plus we're getting a bit more people to edit the profiles now, so more discussion is expected.

 

[KLOL506]

Armorchompy replied, said that my evaluation of Bambu's calc is fine and that the calcs are fine as well.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I'm waiting the blogs to keep adding the stuff, is everything done now ? Did something changed ?

 

[KLOL506]

I'm waiting the blogs to keep adding the stuff, is everything done now ? Did something changed ?

Nah. Nothing changed. Just that Bambu's calc finally got some approval.

DMUA also joined in and approved. Funny thing tho, he saw it well before I approached him kek

Anyway that should be enough grounds for the calc to now be applied in full.

 

[Antvasima]

Armorchompy replied, said that my evaluation of Bambu's calc is fine and that the calcs are fine as well.

Okay. That is good news. Thank you to him then.

So do we have a sufficient number of calculations accepted to apply all required revisions now?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

We already have enough anyways, that's why we're applying them. I'm also in the process of revising the P&A sections of MK characters when I'm changing their ratings.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is good.