Major MHA Speed Upgrade

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Currently Stain is listed as at least supersonic I feel he should be supersonic+ due to being able to stomp Shigaraki without bloodcurdle.

Stain could also get hypersonic reaction speed due to being able to react to Iida's Recipro Burst.

Todoroki should get hypersonic reaction speed as well or perhaps supersonic+ due to him reacting to Iida's Recipro Burst twice

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and being capable of reacting to Stain in combat.

Bakugo is also shown to be unable to stop Todoroki from freezing his arm in close combat.

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Aizawa also scales to this due to being able to restrain Todoroki

A casual Gran Torino is shown to be fte when he blitzes Deku it's worth noting Gran Torino remarked Deku made him dodge seriously so 5% Deku should be fte as well this could be applied to calcs like 20% Deku's speed since we know Overhaul is faster than 5%, Iida's Recipro Burst Speed since we know Stain is at least comparable to 5%

 

[Sora_and_buff_riku]

Well...this is something.

 

[Andytrenom]

Here's some context to Iida's Recipro burst calc, he moves a certain distance before Stain finishes a sword swing, and by comparing the distance both things would have to travel in the same amount of time, we get a value

The feat relies on Recipro Burst being faster than Stain, so I don't think it is logical for him to scale. And before you bring in different kinds of speeds, reaction is single movements done in a short instant, and a single sword swing would most likely be comparable to that, so even just scaling it to reaction speeds seems problematic

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

A sword swing counts as combat speed though and even then Stain should still be supersonic+

 

[Andytrenom]

Combat speed is being able to make a series of movements, while reaction speed is making one, a single action can't really be combat speed or make much sense to separate from reaction speed

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Ah ok then could Stain get bumped to supersonic+ for stomping Shiggy

 

[Andytrenom]

Possibly

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

What about Todoroki's upgrade to supersonic+

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Well...this is something.

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[Damage3245]

Ah ok then could Stain get bumped to supersonic+ for stomping Shiggy

Tomura's feat for being Supersonic+ happens a while after his fight with Stain, so he may not have been Supersonic+ at the time.

Plus Stain has other advantages that would let him "stomp" Shiggy; being stronger, having bladed weapons, etc.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Shigaraki isn't stated to have trained at all his only notable speed buff was during MVA he isn't stated or implied to be actively training

Stain stomped him with knives of all things along with being able to paralyze Kurogiri and sustaining no damage

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Bump

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Early Bump

 

[TheRustyOne]

5% should scale to Recipro.

Izuku was able to match Iida's Recipro when they both attacked Stain. Iida and Izuku jumped at the same time and reached him at the same time. Before you say it, only his punch was above 5% as only his arm got dislocated.

5% does this again along with Todoroki. When they rescued Bakugou, Iida and Izuku push off the wall, with Iida using Recipro. 5% equals Recipro in this scene and Todoroki is able to make an ice path, after they had launched themselves.

5% Izuku also forced Gran Torino to dodge seriously and Iida didn't surpass Gran Torino's speed until he got Recipro Turbo, 200 chapters later. 5% and Gran Torino should fully scale, while Todoroki, Stain, and other scale through reaction/combat speed.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

You make a good point actually but 5% wouldn't scale though Recipro blitzed Stain while 5% could only keep up with Stain

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I edited the thread because I just realised something else that we should discuss

 

[ElixirBlue]

Shigaraki isn't stated to have trained at all his only notable speed buff was during MVA he isn't stated or implied to be actively training

While not stated, I believe he has trained before, almost killing Froppy before she could react (while Deku reacted a little), being able to tank attacks like mr. Aizawa's hits, Bakugo's explosion, and not caring about getting shot by Snipe.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

He's definitely trained but he doesn't appear to train regularly is my point the only time he's stated to have made any increase is in MVA

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Why is Gran Torino slower than Iida on his profile? The guy was keeping up with AM vs AFO even as an old man, and Deku said Iida only surpassed his raw speed when he got Recipro Turbo a long time after.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Great question there's a couple problems with the speed of some characters but unfortunately this thread is really going slow

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Other issues I noted was Stain is supersonic while Shigaraki is supersonic+ and peak human reaction time is used in calcs when characters can be scaled to subsonic reaction due to Deku scaling to casual Gran Torino

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I agree with what's proposed in the OP.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Thank you

 

[ElixirBlue]

Other issues I noted was Stain is supersonic while Shigaraki is supersonic+ and peak human reaction time is used in calcs when characters can be scaled to subsonic reaction due to Deku scaling to casual Gran Torino

Casual? Is it because Nighteye said this?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Well I never really saw Deku being comparable to serious Gran Torino especially since he blitzed the league of villains and Tora could dodge 5% Deku

 

[Spinoirr]

I can't see it

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

@Elixir I'd take Nighteye's statement with a grain of salt since Deku was jumping around and avoiding specific areas which would lower his speed however he should be slower than GT still

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Ok so how many people agree with the changes I've proposed?

 

[TheRustyOne]

Endeavor should scale as well. Gran Torino had to go all out to fight that Hosu Nomu, he was faster but he still considered the Nomu to be fast as well. Endeavor not only reacted to the Nomu, his fire actually reached the Nomu before Gran Torino could.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Makes you want to see Prime Gran Torino.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

@Rusty good point if Endeavour scales then Hawks should as well

@Elixir ikr

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I reworked the Stain calc and changed Stain's speed to subsonic and I got 3 values for Iida's Speed

Low end: Mach 24 (Hypersonic+)

Mid End: Mach 74 (High Hypersonic+)

High End: Mach 122 (Massively Hypersonic)

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I'm gonna editing their profiles now

 

[Kingofwolves999]

I think there should be more input before editing things.

 

[Damage3245]

Yeah, don't just edit the profiles without getting staff approval.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I'm well aware just wanted to see if that'd get anyone's attention since most people don't seem to care about this

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

@Damage what's your opinion on all this btw

 

[Damage3245]

Well, I don't think you can just subsitute Subsonic speeds for Stain's sword slice in order to boost the calc.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Stain scales to 5% Deku who scales to casual Gran Torino who is fte

 

[ElixirBlue]

When was Deku scaled to casual Gran Torino?