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The hierarchy doesn't have an end, iirc there is also a statement which says that David need to have infinite battles if he wants to defeat all gods, which implies the existence of infinite godsthe Hierarchy was never called endless
Because of what Pain and mod have said? Tho if you want my opinions then I will give them if tomorrow I have free time, it's near 3 a.m currentlyReasons
You told me when I ask you, but the thing with Magi Worlds is the regular multiverse where the story takes place is inside a world similar to how higher gods create universes and life form in their world, so i Don't think it should be treated as 11-CDidn't read everything yet but aren't downward hierarchies simply treated as tier 11? What's the point of the thread then?
The mod agrees that there is a god below llah though. Pain might have agreed to that idea but I can't be too sureBecause of what Pain and mod have said
Anytime you are freeTho if you want my opinions then I will give them if tomorrow I have free time, it's near 3 a.m
I said while there may Ben a possibility of a god existing below illah although that’s is not sure and can’t actually be provenThe mod agrees that there is a god below llah though. Pain might have agreed to that idea but I can't be too sure
Huh? I didn't get it. Can you explain what you mean?You told me when I ask you, but the thing with Magi Worlds is the regular multiverse where the story takes place is inside a world similar to how higher gods create universes and life form in their world, so i Don't think it should be treated as 11-C
I believe the series explained this pretty well, Life forms, non powered civilians are contained in regular universes inside a god world. Higher gods rated as 1-B currently also create worlds with life forms. This kind of scaling wouldn't make everyone 1-B but only godsA problem here is that if there are lower worlds in the hierarchy of reality-fiction differences is that this would qualify everybody in the Magi setting as 1-B in relation to everything that is as fiction to them, even non-powered civilians, and certainly not just the gods, much like we ourselves would be above everything that is as fiction to us, and that is simply not how our system works, or makes any sense
Nope you dropped no proof so farI believe I have dropped prove, that there is a god or rather there are gods below llah
Let me reply to thisAnd??
For one that was a picture explaining things differently
And those bubbles are not meant to be gods the major thing there are the black lines that’s shows divisions between illah, the universe, the dragon, human and a higher god encompassing them all
The thing that should be noted there’s is the black lines that look a lot like panel separation lines separating this 4things not the bubbles
Will also reply thisSo your think those bubbles are the gods?
WHIle ignoring the narration from the dragon?
Use the narration on the panel and the images and you will see
1. The humans and the dragon in the same layer but the dragon drawn in a way to be bigger than humans
2. The embryo in the next panel which is showing the universe
3. Illah in the next one
4. The higher god(eye like drawing) in the next panel drawn in a way to encompass the rest
There is nothing here about a lower world the said bubbles are illustrations of possibly other universes in illah layer
Your own interpretation is that the line of bubbles is the hierarchy?
That can’t Be more wrong
No, never said that, in my blog I said bubbles are worlds, octopus like creatures are gods, or am I the only one seeing themSo your think those bubbles are the gods?
I didn't ignore the narration of the dragon, it started from lifeform to the world containing lifeform to llah(black god) then went to the higher god but we know the higher god aren't any different from llah as they have life forms, now what is still being ignored by you till now is the fact that they where gods(octopus like beings) and smaller worlds(bubbles) below llah. Again I ask am I the only one seeing it?WHIle ignoring the narration from the dragon
YesThe humans and the dragon in the same layer but the
The smaller universe, yesThe embryo in the next panel which is showing the universe
YesIllah in the next one
Yes, encompass the rest of whatThe higher god(eye like drawing) in the next panel drawn in a way to encompass the rest
Seriously, a world shown as a bubble, then multiple other bubbles but those aren't worldsThere is nothing here about a lower world the said bubbles are illustrations of possibly other universes in illah layer
I don't even understand thisYour own interpretation is that the line of bubbles is the hierarchy?
I believe why i explained how the description doesn't explain this differently, for starters, the description started from the life forms of a world inside llah's world. llah world is just part of the Hierarchy, same description didn't tell use that even the higher being have smaller worlds and life form similar to llah even though the story tells us so.For one that was a picture explaining things differently
Those gods(octopus like creatures) aren't meant to be gods, seriously. Tell that to the AuthorAnd those bubbles are not meant to be gods the major thing there are the black lines that’s shows divisions between illah
What, a higher god encompassing them, you know I remember that I said something like this in a discussion thread, you said it was stupid and didn't make sense, I can't believe you are saying it here, Well no, the higher god doesn't encompass them. There are gods above him as well, second the structure of the Hierarchy the this panel was described more as spiral, look closely and you will see it.a higher god encompassing them all
I could bring out 20 panels from chapter 222(where that panel was taken from) that there are black line division, seriously Evey panel from that chapter has black line, even the the higher god eyes is drawn of the other side of the black line. Is this your agurment that does gods below aren't godThe thing that should be noted there’s is the black lines that look a lot like panel separation lines separating this 4things not the bubbles
Encompass illah, their current universe, dragon and humanYes, encompass
No I did not as that is irrelevant and does not translate to the “bottomless hierarchy”this gods, here
That seems meaningless. If there are lower-order worlds that are as fiction to the Magi setting, EVERYBODY in said setting would be 1-B by following your logic, and our system simply does not work like that.I believe the series explained this pretty well, Life forms, non powered civilians are contained in regular universes inside a god world. Higher gods rated as 1-B currently also create worlds with life forms. This kind of scaling wouldn't make everyone 1-B but only gods
What, there are lower order worlds, higher view lower as fiction within those worlds are universes, Both my comment on this issue greatly disagree with the idea that everyone in the world would be 1-B, that would be wanking. In my blog I pointed out how a world is structured. There are layers of worlds within every world are regular universes. If the wiki works as you claim it does then currently, every body in llah world, Alibaba, Aladdin, even non powered civilians would be low 1-C because they are inside a universe in llah world.That seems meaningless. If there are lower-order worlds that are as fiction to the Magi setting, EVERYBODY in said setting would be 1-B by following your logic, and our system simply does not work like that.
I still didn't get it bruhJust imagine the story taking place in a 4-D multiverse inside a 1-B world. If there are worlds below that 1-B world would they be treated as tier 11.
On a Hierarchy, there are worlds, the story takes place, higher and lower order worlds, The story takes place in a regular multiverse contained inside one of higher worlds, does that mean the regular multiverse is more complex than a lower order world on that HierarchyI still didn't get it bruh
The last scan of the dragon explanation mentions no god below illah much less countlessRead the last agurment I had with Pain.
Yeah, but it pretty much spells out there are gods below llahNo I did not as that is irrelevant and does not translate to the “bottomless hierarchy”
You should check the blog again. I never used that scan to claim bottomlesswhere are you seeing the bottomless hierarchy in the drawing above?
I did notSee you still ignored those here
I said this before except we would ignore stuffI did not
Nothing here shows any god below illah or countless below him
Just a drawing of multiple gods
And also please send the full page next time stop snipping it
And also what chapter is this?
That was not a drawing of gods on hierarchy and illah is always drawn in black none of those are even drawn in blackI said this before except we would ignore stuff
Just a drawing of multiple gods on the Hierarchy, who where mistakenly drawn below llah on the Hierarchy.
Chapter 222
WTF, so those aren't gods, Pain you have read Magi and you are telling me those aren't gods. It would have been better if you chose to just say let's ignore them than claim that those aren't gods. llah is the black god, that is his name. I can't even hold my laughter backThat was not a drawing of gods on hierarchy and illah is always drawn in black none of those are even drawn in black
I never said those are not drawing of gods I said that is not a drawing of gods on the hierarchy just the dragon explaining how there are gods above illah not belowWTF, so those aren't gods, Pain you have read Magi and you are telling me those aren't gods. It would have been better if you chose to just say let's ignore them than claim that those aren't gods. llah is the black god, that is his name. I can't even hold my laughter back
If the multiverse exists on a higher R>F layer then it would be tier 1 by defaultOn a Hierarchy, there are worlds, the story takes place, higher and lower order worlds, The story takes place in a regular multiverse contained inside one of higher worlds, does that mean the regular multiverse is more complex than a lower order world on that Hierarchy
So you are saying characters from a multiverse located in a higher reality fiction layer are weaker than Gods on lower Reality Fiction layers? How does that make senseNo, it doesn't, characters from the multiverse weaker than a lower order god on a reality fiction level
The multiverse is regular 4D multiverse in a 1-B world. The god in the layer the multiverse is located also have reality fiction transdence on the multiverseSo you are saying characters from a multiverse located in a higher reality fiction layer are weaker than Gods on lower Reality Fiction layers? How does that make sense