PrettyVixenGirl
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Alright so Madmole is the only character to get Low 6-B and in durability except for blatantly stronger characters like laxus getting low 6-B in general. I don't think thats exactly accurate. At least if you don't scale other characters.
Madmole represents a hard surface. If I punch something hard, It's going to hurt, it may or may not damage said hard surface. But let's give a real world example. If I casually punch my wall or punch it moderately nothing will probably happen. But if I use more energy, my fist can and did go through said wall. You may think this is irrelevant but it has a point.
Look at Madmole like a brick wall. Something very dense and sturdy. If you hit it, it might hurt and make you think twice about Hitting it again while probably not damaging said brick wall remotely. However, if someone who is actually a puncher and they are determined to damage said brick they probably would. Will it result in a broken hand or wrist? Possibly. But that also depends on the person.
Elfman punches madmole and damages his own hand and goes "whats with this hardness?" Because thats kinda his concept. Casual things from people of his tier probably won't hurt him much unless they truly commit to damaging madmole. If I punch a sturdy wall and go oh that hurts im not doing that again, but if I actually put effort into trying to damage it I would. Look at it like that. It doesn't mean said wall is more durable than the damage I can output which is the assumption with him being low 6-B and them being 6-C.
Madmole, Skullion, Elfman, and Mirajane all did the same amount of damage to each other. Elfman hurting his hand isn't indication his ap is nowhere near Madmole. Especially since he literally did hurt him as fight went on.
Laxus is more durable than Madmole. But he isn't as sturdy as madmole is. Meaning if Elfman punched laxus he's not going to hurt his hand. It probably won't do much is all. Sturdiness isn't something that is looked at in anime because durability is durability but the concept of madmole is quite literally Sturdiness.
Mirajane, Skullion Raider, and Elfman should all scale to his durability. They are 6-C yet are treated as equals to each other and all received the same amount of damage. Neither one of them was confident on who would win madmole included. Madmole absolutely can be hurt by Elfman, mirajane, and Skullion raider, it just requires more effort or consistent effort. In the same way I can damage a hard surface. I simply wouldn't commit to it unless I was mad because its not worth the broken hand or possibly of it.
Basically what it comes down to, I don't think Elfman and mirajane should not scale to his durability. Elfman hurting his hand isn't a good anti feat because it was just a casual punch. Clearly he did more than a casual punch to hurt the guy later on.
So a Low 6-B (Damaged madmole) would be fine and its technically not even unlegit because my boy gray couldn't even hurt Skullion raider going all out and got stomped. So anybody weaker than devil slayer gray or on his level wouldn't scale. Cause he couldn't even hurt Skullion let alone madmole. Meanwhile Elfman and mirajane did and not only that treated as equals with the guy. Kiria should get as well. But Gray, Lucy, and under should not scale. Gray goes all out and gets stomped by Skullion. However post elentear may be a different story. So lucy may be able to actually contend with dragon eaters as well as gray but I really think "can damage madmole" should really be a justification. And natsu and Erza can just get a a comparable rating but gray and lucy should stay 6-C. Star dress mix lucy open to discussion though.
Skullion, mirajane, and Elfman should be low 6-B or High 6-C but 6-C isn't accurate
Madmole represents a hard surface. If I punch something hard, It's going to hurt, it may or may not damage said hard surface. But let's give a real world example. If I casually punch my wall or punch it moderately nothing will probably happen. But if I use more energy, my fist can and did go through said wall. You may think this is irrelevant but it has a point.
Look at Madmole like a brick wall. Something very dense and sturdy. If you hit it, it might hurt and make you think twice about Hitting it again while probably not damaging said brick wall remotely. However, if someone who is actually a puncher and they are determined to damage said brick they probably would. Will it result in a broken hand or wrist? Possibly. But that also depends on the person.
Elfman punches madmole and damages his own hand and goes "whats with this hardness?" Because thats kinda his concept. Casual things from people of his tier probably won't hurt him much unless they truly commit to damaging madmole. If I punch a sturdy wall and go oh that hurts im not doing that again, but if I actually put effort into trying to damage it I would. Look at it like that. It doesn't mean said wall is more durable than the damage I can output which is the assumption with him being low 6-B and them being 6-C.
Madmole, Skullion, Elfman, and Mirajane all did the same amount of damage to each other. Elfman hurting his hand isn't indication his ap is nowhere near Madmole. Especially since he literally did hurt him as fight went on.
Laxus is more durable than Madmole. But he isn't as sturdy as madmole is. Meaning if Elfman punched laxus he's not going to hurt his hand. It probably won't do much is all. Sturdiness isn't something that is looked at in anime because durability is durability but the concept of madmole is quite literally Sturdiness.
Mirajane, Skullion Raider, and Elfman should all scale to his durability. They are 6-C yet are treated as equals to each other and all received the same amount of damage. Neither one of them was confident on who would win madmole included. Madmole absolutely can be hurt by Elfman, mirajane, and Skullion raider, it just requires more effort or consistent effort. In the same way I can damage a hard surface. I simply wouldn't commit to it unless I was mad because its not worth the broken hand or possibly of it.
Basically what it comes down to, I don't think Elfman and mirajane should not scale to his durability. Elfman hurting his hand isn't a good anti feat because it was just a casual punch. Clearly he did more than a casual punch to hurt the guy later on.
So a Low 6-B (Damaged madmole) would be fine and its technically not even unlegit because my boy gray couldn't even hurt Skullion raider going all out and got stomped. So anybody weaker than devil slayer gray or on his level wouldn't scale. Cause he couldn't even hurt Skullion let alone madmole. Meanwhile Elfman and mirajane did and not only that treated as equals with the guy. Kiria should get as well. But Gray, Lucy, and under should not scale. Gray goes all out and gets stomped by Skullion. However post elentear may be a different story. So lucy may be able to actually contend with dragon eaters as well as gray but I really think "can damage madmole" should really be a justification. And natsu and Erza can just get a a comparable rating but gray and lucy should stay 6-C. Star dress mix lucy open to discussion though.
Skullion, mirajane, and Elfman should be low 6-B or High 6-C but 6-C isn't accurate
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