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Introduction
Beerus and Champa threatening to destroy both Universes 6 and 7 during their brief confrontation during the Tournament of Destroyers Saga has been considered a Tier 2 feat for ages at this point; in fact, after some discussion, the two of them were eventually given essentially a Low 2-C+ rating, because no one could determine whether or not they were just really high into Low 2-C or just really low-end 2-C characters. However, there is a reason that their feat is considered a Tier 2 feat, in spite of time never being mentioned. This is because the two of them were threatening to destroy two universes simultaneously. The assumption is: "Since their destruction would extend to an entirely separate dimension, logically they would have to affect their space-time continua". And, to some, it is a sound argument—I don't ******* understand it, but it seems fine to an outsider.That being said though, for the same reason Beerus and Champa's feat is considered Tier 2, Goku and Beerus' feat should be considered Tier 2 rather than 3-A.
The level of destruction
That original statement was an estimation made by Elder Kai before their battle and their powers escalated further. Once he realized how severe the situation truly was with Goku and Beerus gradually growing stronger as the battle went on, he went from "The two of them would reduce every planet and galaxy to space dust" to "The universe is completely done for".
All of this points to the entirety of the universe would be reduced to nothing—"disappear", as Toei's official summary of the episode puts it.
Of course, this would include the Other World, the Sacred World of the Kai, and everything in-between; we know for a fact that this would affect the Sacred World of the Kai, because Elder Kai feared the destruction would reach himself and Kibito Kai, and we see the explosion caused by Goku and Beerus' later energy struggle reach them.
And now, we've hit the fun part.
How does this relate to the Beerus and Champa feat?
The Dragon World (in general)
The Living World
Demon Realm
Other World (in general)
Kaio Realm
Yemma Realm
Sacred World of the Kai
- The sub-realms within the Other World themselves are also separated from each other to some degree. It is impossible to freely travel between the Yemma Realm, a dimension of unknown size, and Hell, and through only special methods such as teleportation or divine transportation is it possible to reach the Kaio Realm.
Finally, the Sacred World of the Kai, which is where the Supreme Kai, who watch over the entire macrocosm, reside. This realm exists outside of the entire universal globe and perpetually revolves around the massive space that makes up most of Universe 7. The only ways to access this world is through teleportation; otherwise, no method of transportation has been recorded—without teleportation, not even a soul could make it inside. As with the other examples on this list, this dimension is completely sealed off from the Living World, and thus, it is safe to assume that this is its own space-time continuum.
"Okay, Nullflower. But what the hell does any of this mean?"
Like I said in the introduction, for the same reason Beerus and Champa's feat is considered Tier 2—extending into another space-time continuum—Goku and Beerus' feat should be considered Tier 2 as well, seeing as how they were threatening to reach into and completely destroy- uh... whazit, eight different realms completely dimensionally sealed off from their own, much like with Universe 6 and Universe 7? Yeah, eight.
Now, do I believe this is 2-C? None of these dimensions are stated to be universal in size; although, you could make a strong case for the entirety of the Other World being universal in size because... duh- but, there are no explicit statements that they are universal in size, so I will not make that claim. At the very least, this feat is Low 2-C.
Unless you care to downgrade Beerus and Champa?
Possible counterarguments
"You can't suppress yourself infinitely, so there is no way Goku is Low 2-C".Shut the **** up. ahehe
Conclusions
Because Beerus and Champa's feat was considered Low 2-C+ (half 2-C) based on the assumption that the damage extending into other, adjacent spatiotemporal realms would automatically include the manipulation of their space-times, Goku and Beerus' feat should be considered Low 2-C, based on the fact that their damage extended into several other adjacent and dimensionally isolated realms, each with their own space-time.Who does this affect?
- Anybody who scales to 3-A through Goku
Disagree:
Neutral: Zamasu_Chan, LordTracer
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