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Low 1-C neutral space dbs

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Hasty12345 said:
how can you tell they don't intersect in the neutral zone? you're using marbles that honestly, don't even remotely represent the cosmological structure of the universes in any way to visually assess the relationship that's functionally contradicted by the timeline creation process.
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It isn't, as the "timeline" overreaches all the lower space times. Hence why we usually call them "hypertimelines".

They don't intersect, it's just that the timeline encompasses all them.
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
It isn't, as the "timeline" overreaches all the lower space times. Hence why we usually call them "hypertimelines".

They don't intersect, it's just that the timeline encompasses all them.
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they need to intersect otherwise the higher timeline wouldn't exist to begin with

think of how a 4D object is constructed, through sequential snapshots of 3D object

you're saying (at least I think you're saying): higher timeline therefore not connected

whereas I'm saying, there's a higher timeline BECAUSE they're connected as the 4D objects are the things constructing the higher timeline to begin with, I'm saying the fact they're connected is the reason why a 5D argument even exists to begin with.
 
Hasty12345 said:
they need to intersect otherwise the higher timeline wouldn't exist to begin with

think of how a 4D object is constructed, through sequential snapshots of 3D object

you're saying (at least I think you're saying): higher timeline therefore not connected

whereas I'm saying, there's a higher timeline BECAUSE they're connected as the 4D objects are the things constructing the higher timeline to begin with, I'm saying the fact they're connected is the reason why a 5D argument even exists to begin with.
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No, as intersected space times do not qualify for 2-C anymore.
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
No, as intersected space times do not qualify for 2-C anymore.
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we ignore those stupid standards
Jokes aside, we literally currently accept DB's cosmology to not abide by hypertimeline logic yet it still has an overarching timeline that's somehow 4D? sounds like a joke

current standards seem to disagree with 2-C DB
 
Hasty12345 said:
we ignore those stupid standards
Jokes aside, we literally currently accept DB's cosmology to not abide by hypertimeline logic yet it still has an overarching timeline that's somehow 4D? sounds like a joke

current standards seem to disagree with 2-C DB
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Overreaching timelines are not always Low 1-C. So yes. There's nothing stopping DB from being 2-C as of now.
 
I already explained how a timeline cannot be higher than its sequence as a whole.
Although I don't really see anything disproving this hyper-timeline to not have infinitely stretching future
but if these hyper timeline exist only when things intersect that might be a reason for them to not qualify due to these intersection as the only cases where hyper-timeline exist which makes it a non infinitely stretching timeline to qualify for higher infinity
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
I already explained how a timeline cannot be higher than its sequence as a whole.
Although I don't really see anything disproving this hyper-timeline to not have infinitely stretching future
but if these hyper timeline exist only when things intersect that might be a reason for them to not qualify due to these intersection as the only cases where hyper-timeline exist which makes it a non infinitely stretching timeline to qualify for higher infinity
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I mean the DB universes do not really intersect with one another unless you argue them to not be separate. Let alone the timelines.
 
We all know it gonna be rejected to oblivion. DB, atleast canon one, don't have anything Tier 1. Idk why all this futile attempts.
 
Hasty12345 said:
we ignore those stupid standards
Jokes aside, we literally currently accept DB's cosmology to not abide by hypertimeline logic yet it still has an overarching timeline that's somehow 4D? sounds like a joke

current standards seem to disagree with 2-C DB
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It is a joke, by this logic, regular universes should be 3-A
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
I already explained how a timeline cannot be higher than its sequence as a whole.
Although I don't really see anything disproving this hyper-timeline to not have infinitely stretching future
but if these hyper timeline exist only when things intersect that might be a reason for them to not qualify due to these intersection as the only cases where hyper-timeline exist which makes it a non infinitely stretching timeline to qualify for higher infinity
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Nothing contradicts a infinitely stretching future. The timeline literally overarches 4d constructs, would be an uncountable infinite amount of snapshots of 4d objects/constructs.
 
Jaakor48 said:
If these universes are separate space times and contained inside the neutral zone space (which has been stated as being the Soave between them), and these universes are 4D

Isn't 5D the only explanation for the neutral zone? And if not, then the timeline itself?
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Space between space times Being 5D is true for every multiverse, however it needs more to be low 1-C
 
3 pages; don't we come to conclusion that neutral space acts the same as any space between space-time continuums?
 
Vietthai96 said:
Timeline by default is infinitely long, unless something disprove it
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IF this is the case, then at the the very least, each timeline should be 5D, and should also qualify for low 1C, since it contains both the neutral zone, which contains multiple 4d space times, and if it's infinite then it can't be insignificant.

omegabronic said:
Space between space times Being 5D is true for every multiverse, however it needs more to be low 1-C
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If a verse has not characterized that the space between space times, it's basically treated as a void iirc, also if the space times can intersect within the space then it's not 5D iirc.

The neutral zone is characterized and separates and contains all the 4d universes within a timeline, it can't be 4d, can it?
 
ImmortalDread said:
3 pages; don't we come to conclusion that neutral space acts the same as any space between space-time continuums?
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I think you’re getting the wrong idea here, ofc it’s 5-D but we’re getting them to Low 1-C

Neutral space been implied as a different concept, so no
 
Jaakor48 said:
IF this is the case, then at the the very least, each timeline should be 5D, and should also qualify for low 1C, since it contains both the neutral zone, which contains multiple 4d space times, and if it's infinite then it can't be insignificant.
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it needs qualitative superiority difference, unless you can prove that than this is not low 1-C

Jaakor48 said:
If a verse has not characterized that the space between space times, it's basically treated as a void iirc
, also if the space times can intersect within the space then it's not 5D iirc.

The neutral zone is characterized and separates and contains all the 4d universes within a timeline, it can't be 4d, can it?
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why are you asking this if it was said again and again that it would be 5D, just this doesn't matter since it wouldn't be low 1-C?
 
Reiner said:
Not sus.
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omegabronic said:
it needs qualitative superiority difference, unless you can prove that than this is not low 1-C
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Doesn't having a literal extra spatial/temporal dimension qualify as this?

A 5D structuring is qualitatively superior to a 4D one isn't it? Especially when it contains a set of said structures?

I read the qualitative superiority page and saw this
The reason it is called qualitative superiority is that, instead of quantitative terms such as being 2 times, 100 times or even infinite times more powerful or greater, this type of superiority is typically justified by the nature of the superiority. The most standard case is dimensionality, where a difference in the quality that is dimensionality, implies the necessary quantitative difference.
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And the neutral space is it's own dimension, which means it would have it's own temporal dimension which would qualify for qualitatively superior to that 5d space anyway. A temporal dimension that would overarch the regular macrocosms and the neutral space, that alone would be low 1-C.
 
Jaakor48 said:
IF this is the case, then at the the very least, each timeline should be 5D, and should also qualify for low 1C, since it contains both the neutral zone, which contains multiple 4d space times, and if it's infinite then it can't be insignificant.
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i mean, it can contain 12 to 18 macrocosms which is 4d space-time contruct, along with Neutral Zone, Zeno Realm and World of Void, no way it can be insignificant
 
Vietthai96 said:
i mean, it can contain 12 to 18 macrocosms which is 4d space-time contruct, along with Neutral Zone, Zeno Realm and World of Void, no way it can be insignificant
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Not even, the neutral zone is its own space/dimension, that on its own would have a temporal which is qualitatively superior to the macrocosms and the neutral space which holds the macrocosm, that is low 1-C.
 
ImmortalDread said:
May I see all statements that imply this space as different?
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It’s by wiki’s default anyway,

When a universe is destroyed, there is nothing but a white void with colorful stars. The only known being powerful enough to survive such an event is Zeno, as seen when Future Zeno erased Future Trunks' timeline completely in Dragon Ball Super.

~Dragon Ball wiki

This implies a different concept
 
I really asked for statements on how it is a different, but since there are none, this is simply the same space that goes around structures.
 
ImmortalDread said:
No, it really is not different from the 5D insignificant space. I don't see how this implies a qualitative superiority.
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I really just stated the neutral space is a difference concept and you asked for statements, and I gave it to you. The reason why it’s 5-D it’s pretty obvious, wiki standards and real-life theorems postulates otherwise.
ImmortalDread said:
It really did not. It is a known quote actually; disappointed that you did not know that, and you took it in the wrong way.
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Lol, I might have lots of characteristics you’re definitely gonna be disappointed about.
 
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