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I've been away from the wiki for a few months and come back to that masterpiece. Awesome job, Tyranno. I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.
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Lord of the Rings Discussion Thread
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Cheers! I'm fairly confident it'll work out.
Main thing I'm worried about is defending this wider cosmology thing. A good amount of the tier 1 stuff is a mix of arguing Tolkien's presented worldview alongside LotR at that point.
Even then, it all seems coherent enough to defend without too much problem.
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Do we consider Rings Of Power canon?
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Absolutely not. H to the E to the L to the L, no.
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Much like the Movies or Lego, it would be a separate canon entirely.
(Thank Eru).
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Has anyone tried power scaling The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, The Road Goes Ever On, and Bilbo's Last Song. They are all canon last I checked.
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Not particularly, though I remember addressing Tom a few times. He's finicky as originating from a literal older work of Tolkien. The LotR depiction of him is rather hardcapped at somewhat below WotR Sauron tho.
That aside, I should really make a page addressing "canon" for Tolkien in vs battles. I've covered it a few times but in short.
LotR/The Hobbit (published works by JRR)
The Silmarillion (A compilation of notes published as a coherent thing by Christopher. Unlike the above two, this one can be overturned in cases Christopher erred).
Tolkien's notes (More recent = more "canon" as Tolkien's final say. But it must be coherent with presented and published material. No spherical pre Second Age Arda for instance).
Stuff Tolkien approved of (Atlas of Middle-Earth for example).
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I know this was discussed a long while ago, but do you think you can link me that G1 blog? I'd like to see it for myself.
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Listen guys, I may not understand something, but where are the profiles of characters from iconic movies? Where is the main page of movie verse of Lotr? There is no Aragorn profile from movies, there is no Legolas profile from movies. I am surprised that there are no profiles for characters from legendary film series
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They're apparently mixed in with the book profile.
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They're seperate, Movie canon is incompatible with Book canon.
There are a few movie profiles. I ain't involves with them tho.
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Dumb idea, but Aragorn vs Aragorn or Boromir vs Boromir would be funny to me.
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Film Aragorn vs Show Jon Snow might be fun too
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Aragorn slams hard.
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While the Tier 1 and 0 stuff is on hold in the queue, I'll probably try working on that Elven abilities and resistances page.
On a low end note, the Hobbits should probably get 9-B with their weapons since they can kill trolls. Higher against Wraiths for Merry, Pippin, and I believe Sam. I think Frodo shakes Mount Doom when he claims the One Ring too.
On a low end note, the Hobbits should probably get 9-B with their weapons since they can kill trolls. Higher against Wraiths for Merry, Pippin, and I believe Sam. I think Frodo shakes Mount Doom when he claims the One Ring too.
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That would also upgrade Sauron, as it is outright stated in one of Tolkien's Letters that he would no diff Frodo even then.
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Not really, shaking a mountain is only City block so it’s well within TA Sauron’s abilities
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Yeah, might try getting it calc'd, but it's only for Frodo and only environmental.
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Why isn't Genius Intelligence on Sauron's Profile?
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Genius Intelligence
A genius is an individual with an exceptional capacity for knowledge and intelligence. Geniuses can appear in a variety of forms and with a variety of specialties, and their exceptional intelligence is not necessarily universal, potentially only applying to certain subjects and fields that they...
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It is actually. Under the captions of “skilled blacksmith, craftsman and strategist”Why isn't Genius Intelligence on Sauron's Profile?
Genius Intelligence
A genius is an individual with an exceptional capacity for knowledge and intelligence. Geniuses can appear in a variety of forms and with a variety of specialties, and their exceptional intelligence is not necessarily universal, potentially only applying to certain subjects and fields that they...
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Tbf, I didn't realise there was an ability page for Genius intelligence. I'll need to add or reword that to a lot of pages next time they're unlocked.
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Not much yet (mostly copy pastes from Legolas), but it begins. Wouldn't mind some support here. Not as motivated for this as with the Ainur.
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