Lord Boros (One Punch Man) vs Sanji (One Piece) (0-7-0) GRACE

[Recon1511]

Kachon's protege squares off against the Dominator of the Universe

Lord Boros

VS

Sanji

• Boros is on his Released Key
• Sanji is on his Post Vinsmoke Awakening Key
• Starting distance: 15 meters
• Speed is equalized
• Boros Meteoric Burst is NOT restricted (Might change this if necessary)

Boris:

Kachon: @Kachon123 @BadSystems @Lynieryz @ZillertheBucko @Artorimachi_Meteoraft @Dragonite007 @MaidRips

Iaian oneshots both (Incon):

 

[Kachon123]

Following

 

[Nierre]

never thought i'd see this match

 

[Recon1511]

Well here it is now

 

[Kachon123]

Boros has higher AP
Sanji is more skilled, has higher LS, is smarter, has much higher and greater amps, resists Boros' heat-based attacks, can negate Boros' regen, has regen himelf, has extreme heat, and can blitz Boros with amps.

SBA places Released Boros' speed at >.75c and places his Meteoric Burst form at 4.35c

Sanji's base is equalized to >0.75c, which makes the difference between Meteoric Burst Boros and Sanji 5.8x. This can be dealt with with Sanji's Kenbun which gives him precog.

Sanji's speed amps makes him several blitzes above his base value.

Ifrit Jambe + Super Speed (higher level amp + blitz) > Diable Jambe + Super Speed (high level amp + blitz) > Diable Jambe (high level amp) > Super Speed (blitz) > Base Sanji

Unless Boros starts with Meteoric Burst (which takes a while for Boros to even turn into), Sanji just blitzes and melts Boros.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

“Boros has higher AP” understatement of the year.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Let’s make something clear
Boros effortlessly one shots in released form so if he lands a single flick of his finger or even a tiny little energy blast, brose is winning instantly.
Boros also has a big ol heat resistance, and even charges up vaporization level blasts inside of his body.
what exactly is foddji gonna do here

 

[Nierre]

That speed advantage is absolutely crazy, how willing/fast is Boros to got MB?

 

[Kachon123]

“Boros has higher AP” understatement of the year.

It's really not, as Sanji has his own massive scaling chain

MB Boros > Released Boros > Full power Tatsumaki > Supressed Tatsumaki >(oneshot) Psykorochi > Orochi's thoughts on Saitama >(oneshot) Gaia Cannon > Orochi = 5.68 Exatons

Ifrit + SS Sanji > DJ + SS Sanji > DJ Sanji >(oneshot) Queen's arm >~ Queen's Germa Abilities > Sanji's Exoskeleton >(oneshot) Queen's 2 arm sword > Queen 1 arm sword ~ Zoan Queen Durability > Base Post-Mink Zoro Durability > Base King AP >>> Jack AP >>> X Drake AP ~ Casual Rooftop Buso Nitoryu Zoro >~ Base Kaidou Durabiltiy > Big Mom AP ~ Marco AP ~ Akainu AP = 1.496 Exatons

 

[Kachon123]

That speed advantage is absolutely crazy, how willing/fast is Boros to got MB?

He's never used it before fighting Saitama, and only used it because Saitama no diffed all of his attacks. Also, it drains a shitton of energy and said that he'd only use it to end a battle quickly if he doesn't have a chance otherwise.

tl;dr, not likely.

 

[Recon1511]

Let’s make something clear
Boros effortlessly one shots in released form so if he lands a single flick of his finger or even a tiny little energy blast, brose is winning instantly.
Boros also has a big ol heat resistance, and even charges up vaporization level blasts inside of his body.
what exactly is foddji gonna do here

That's not really how upscaling works, especially when we are talking about cross verse versus battles where the standards for a "one shot" are wildly different

 

[Kachon123]

Boros also has a big ol heat resistance, and even charges up vaporization level blasts inside of his body.

Sanji's heat scales vastly higher than Boros.

Boros can take the heat of his blasts, which can melt his ship, which tanked re-entry heat

Boros heat resistance > Boros' blasts heat > Boros Ship resistance > Re-entry heat = 1477° C

Sanji Ifrit Jambe > Sanji Exoskeleton resistance > Sanji Base Resistance > Diable Jambe heat > Luffy Base Resistance > Enel Heat = 28000º C

Sanji quite literally melts Boros with any heat-based attack

 

[Nierre]

Then in that case I'm leaning towards Sanji. (Not a vote yet)

Sanji just seems to have every bit of advantage (minus AP), and if MB isn't very likely, then it's possible Sanji can take him out. He probably doesn't even need Ifrit lol, Diable can probably take care of him.

The fact that they're equalized in base, but Sanji has Haki, means Boros is going to have a VERY hard time hitting him unless he uses massive AOE.... though that might probably prompt Boros to using MB if he can't tag Sanji reliably enough

 

[Kachon123]

The fact that they're equalized in base, but Sanji has Haki, means Boros is going to have a VERY hard time hitting him unless he uses massive AOE.... though that might probably prompt Boros to using MB if he can't tag Sanji reliably enough

The issue is that Released Boros and BASE Sanji's speeds are equal.

Sanji in character spams his super speed and diable jambe, with the former being a blitz amp and the latter just being a big amp.

OP says they start 15 meters away. In that case...

The battle starts and... Sanji disappears

 

[ZillertheBucko]

It's really not, as Sanji has his own massive scaling chain

MB Boros > Released Boros > Full power Tatsumaki > Supressed Tatsumaki >(oneshot) Psykorochi > Orochi's thoughts on Saitama >(oneshot) Gaia Cannon > Orochi = 5.68 Exatons

Correction
Csrc(self destruct)>>>>Meteoric Burst Energy Blasts>>Meteoric burst>Release Blasts>>Released Boros>Full power Tatsumaki>Suppressed Tatsumaki>>>>Psykorochi>(confidence scaling)>Gaia cannon>5.68 exatons

 

[ZillertheBucko]

That's not really how upscaling works, especially when we are talking about cross verse versus battles where the standards for a "one shot" are wildly different

Actually not quite the case
Someone who one shots a 2 exaton character will always be able to one shot a baseline 2 exaton character from any verse. It’s just not a multiplier because it can’t be quantified, but a one shot will always be a one shot in vs threads
this has always been the case.

 

[Kachon123]

Csrc(self destruct)

Sanji can easily avoid that. And it just kills Boros so that does no good. No point in adding that.

Meteoric Burst Energy Blasts>>Meteoric burst>Release Blasts>>Released Boros>Full power Tatsumaki>Suppressed Tatsumaki>>>>Psykorochi>(confidence scaling)>Gaia cannon>5.68 exatons

Meteoric Bursts never showed the ability to shoot blasts, and even if he did, proof that they're above his physicals?
Proof that released Boros' Blasts are superior to Released Boros' physicals?

Spamming ">>>>>>>'s" is not how scaling chains work Ziller.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Meteoric Bursts never showed the ability to shoot blasts, and even if he did, proof that they're above his physicals?
Proof that released Boros' Blasts are superior to Released Boros' physicals?

Spamming ">>>>>>>'s" is not how scaling chains work Ziller.

Hypocritical, considering you were the one that brought up meteoric burst blasts in the other crt
and why would he lose the ability in MB form?

 

[Recon1511]

Actually not quite the case
Someone who one shots a 2 exaton character will always be able to one shot a baseline 2 exaton character from any verse. It’s just not a multiplier because it can’t be quantified, but a one shot will always be a one shot in vs threads
this has always been the case.

We should ask mods because I was told several times that was not the case

 

[Kachon123]

Hypocritical, considering you were the one that brought up meteoric burst blasts in the other crt

That's not hypocritical. I'm not going to give Boros an ability he hasn't shown.

why would he lose the ability in MB form?

Because he stated that instead of using his latent energy for blasts, he uses it to boost his physical body, although it does strain him a lot.

 

[Kachon123]

We should ask mods because I was told several times that was not the case

It's not the case.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Csrc is literally proof that he can still use energy blasts in MB

It's not the case.

It most certainly is.

 

[Recon1511]

Do I have to call a thread mod here?

 

[Kachon123]

Anyways, the fact of the matter is that SBA kills Boros due to Sanji's speed amps

Sanji's a combo fighter so any single attack he lands on him would just turn into tens to hundreds of attacks that he won't stop until Boros is goop

Sanji's busō haki negates Boros' regen so once he'd dead, he's dead

Sanji's kenbun allows him to use precog to see what's coming and dodge/avoid/stop any attack

Sanji's heat melts Boros

Sanji's heat resistance tanks Boros

Sanji's endurance allows him to get up from any attack Boros has

Sanji's regeneration allows him to regen from any attack Boros lands on him

Sanji's LS allows him to avoid getting BFRd if Boros lasts long enough to go Meteoric Burst

Sanji's mobility and flight allows him to avoid Boros' attacks

Sanji's skill allows him to find and exploit any weakness

 

[Nierre]

The issue is that Released Boros and BASE Sanji's speeds are equal.

Sanji in character spams his super speed and diable jambe, with the former being a blitz amp and the latter just being a big amp.

OP says they start 15 meters away. In that case...

The battle starts and... Sanji disappears

Yeah I just think he'll need to use DJ if he wants to end it quickly since Boros has a pretty sizable durability advantage., and DJ has an AS (attack speed) amp allowing him to spam his barrage attacks with ease and just cook Boros.

Boros only really has a chance if Sanji just goes easy on him (doesn't use DJ/IJ) and allows Boros to use MB. Sanji could beat him without it, because yk, super speed and Kenbun, but Boros' Durability is pretty high so it'll likely be a stamina match there (Which Sanji would win anyway.. lol)

 

[Kachon123]

Boros has a pretty sizable durability advantage

It should also be noted that Sanji both in his base (with flanchet strike) and with DJ/IJ have durability negation.

 

[Nierre]

Sanji's a combo fighter so any single attack he lands on him would just turn into tens to hundreds of attacks that he won't stop until Boros is goop

To hammer on this point, this is why Sanji is so brutal lol. One hit turns into another, which turns into another, which turns into another...

if Sanji at one point uses DJ against Boros it's quite literally wraps. He will be cooked. Sanji's fighting style is vicious and unless you have a crazy speed advantage or some type of hax, it's hard to stop

 

[Kachon123]

To hammer on this point, this is why Sanji is so brutal lol. One hit turns into another, which turns into another, which turns into another...

if Sanji at one point uses DJ against Boros it's quite literally wraps. He will be cooked. Sanji's fighting style is vicious and unless you have a crazy speed advantage or some type of hax, it's hard to stop

And what makes it worse is that it's not like Pre-Timeskip Sanji is being used. This is Post-Timeskip Sanji who literally spams Diable Jambe.

I quite literally can't think of a fight he's had post-timeskip where he hasn't used Diable Jambe as his opening attack.

 

[Kachon123]

Meteoric Burst is unironically useless.

There may be a speed amp, but we've seen before that Kenbun allows people to dodge and react to attacks that normally blitz them, which MB can't do.

 

[Recon1511]

I take it you two are voting for Sanji then?

 

[Nierre]

Don't count my vote yet, I'd like to see some Boros arguments first.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Anyways, the fact of the matter is that SBA kills Boros due to Sanji's speed amps

Sanji's a combo fighter so any single attack he lands on him would just turn into tens to hundreds of attacks that he won't stop until Boros is goop

Sanji's busō haki negates Boros' regen so once he'd dead, he's dead

Sanji's kenbun allows him to use precog to see what's coming and dodge/avoid/stop any attack

Sanji's heat melts Boros

Sanji's heat resistance tanks Boros

Sanji's endurance allows him to get up from any attack Boros has

Sanji's regeneration allows him to regen from any attack Boros lands on him

Sanji's LS allows him to avoid getting BFRd if Boros lasts long enough to go Meteoric Burst

Sanji's mobility and flight allows him to avoid Boros' attacks

Sanji's skill allows him to find and exploit any weakness

That’s cool but Boros just needs to land a single laser on him and he dies. It scales above his released form which scales above tatsumaki who, while suppressed and slightly injured, can literally turn the entirety of fused Orochi into a meat tornado and obliterate its attacks, meaning she’s multiple “one shots” above that (a typical one shot involves being able to punch someone once and instantly knock them out or break their bones or something, and Tatsumaki’s feat is obviously far above that)

Boros quite literally just need to laser him once and it’s a wrap.

 

[Kachon123]

I take it you two are voting for Sanji then?

I am

 

[ZillertheBucko]

and don’t forget that Sanji’s scaling chain starts with a value that’s already 3 times lower than base Orochi

 

[Kachon123]

That’s cool but Boros just needs to land a single laser on him and he dies.

1. That's literally not true lmao
2. In his fight with Queen, his opponent literally spammed danmaku lasers and not a single one hit him, so I'd imaging Boros would have fun trying
3. Sanji's heat resistance tanks it
4. Sanji's endurance and regen kicks in allowing him to get up

 

[Kachon123]

2. In his fight with Queen, his opponent literally spammed danmaku lasers and not a single one hit him, so I'd imaging Boros would have fun trying

Mind you, this is right after he got tortured to the point where he could barely walk

 

[Kachon123]

Boros unironically has a better chance at winning in his Released state than with Meteoric Burst, as Sanji can just aircamp or just use precog to dodge all his attacks, all while Boros is slowly dying due to MB's drawback

 

[ZillertheBucko]

1. That's literally not true lmao
2. In his fight with Queen, his opponent literally spammed danmaku lasers and not a single one hit him, so I'd imaging Boros would have fun trying
3. Sanji's heat resistance tanks it
4. Sanji's endurance and regen kicks in allowing him to get up

heat resistance doesn’t negate AP that can one shot him
this fight is speed equalized as well, so he’d have a much harder time here than against someone he was clearly faster than
The only reason he waited a while to go meteoric burst against saitama was because he wasn’t beating him very badly and didn’t plan on going for a one shot, but if Sanji’s going at him as aggressively as you say, then he would use it to end the fight quickly (which is what it’s used for, as he himself said)

 

[Kachon123]

heat resistance doesn’t negate AP that can one shot him

Learn how cross verse versus matches work on this site. Until you do that, I'm just going to stop debating you.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Learn how cross verse versus matches work on this site. Until you do that, I'm just going to stop debating you.

You should learn yourself
if someone scales a one shot above someone else, then they one shot them, regardless of the verse.
That’s literally the reasons scaling chains get brought up.