ShionAH
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Being above time an space is not enough for BDE since one of my CRTs got rejected because of that even when I had extra proof of BDE it was rejected so
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Ah, that's a good point. I failed to consider the full scope of what "time and space" entails. If he clearly doesn't scale to that (and it appears he does not) then I agree with you, the evidence isn't strong enough.
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I very very extremely strongly agree with this
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BDE isn't 1-A.
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He's saying that the statement best used to assert BDE is, at least in one respect, provably inaccurate, and that cast doubts on the extent to which it can be used. Even taken at face value it's still a biiiit iffy on if it can be used for BDE.
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sir my purpose here is not to make thor 1a with knull but I don't think they are 1a mainly because of bde as far as i know bde is just a hax that gives immunity to space and time
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Knull is only a threat to all of a certain space-time. Not all space and time that exists. So the evidence has nothing to do with Multi Eternity at all.
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Here it is clearly said that he is only a threat to one space-time as a whole
At least this is my interpretation and understanding. Even if it is not accepted, I don't have much of a problem
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The thing about Knull is not just that he's superior to space and time. Seriously, stop ignoring the fact that he's the embodiment of the Abyss.
Basically: To be superior to a certain spacetime and to lack spatial and temporal features is simply BDE type 2. And Knull already has these requirements
Stop doin' whataboutism.
ShionAH
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Literally
in its purest form right here
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Stop it. Don't disrespect peopleLiterally
ShionAH
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They are my friend.
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Agree, quite simple
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By any chance how is this BDE type 2?
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I think some people don't understand the issue here, I just put the scan that knull passes as a threat to space and time only because I think it will support that it is superior to all space and time in the universe, on the other hand, knull is the incarnation of the abyss, abyss is a void above to space and time devoid of space and time.
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Seems fair, I think it is due to how you organize the thread.
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yes it's my fault so what's your stance here?
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I am not sure from where is the superiority coming from, I understand BDE type 1 from this available material you have given.
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I have previously explained the scan related to celestials, if you want, you can go and look and I would like to point out that it knull takes type 2 because of its abyss nature.
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Mind share the link to that post?
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I'm unsure.
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Once again, I don't see any superiority that you are trying to mention here.
Neither the supporting evidence that is given any relevance in this thread.
Neither the supporting evidence that is given any relevance in this thread.
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Yes
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Type 2: Characters whose nature is defined by lacking spatiotemporal features and being superior to them in nature. These characters aren't necessarily superior to spacetime on every level, but just within the scope which they are shown. Due to transcending this spacetime they are immune to Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation of it. They furthermore inherit any benefits of Type 1.
for type 2, he says, characters whose nature is defined as devoid of space-time and inherently superior to space-time.
The knull is devoid of space and time due to its abyss nature and is superior to space and time, and it supports this situation as it passes as a threat to all space-time in the universe.
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It's none of my business if you ignore the pretty obvious support and evidence, if you really can't see it, there's a good eye doctor I know.
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Don't make comments like this in the future.
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I'm sorry if I sounded offensive, but I just want to point out that I really feel like my effort is being neglected here. I try to keep my emotions under control, however, some people may offer logical reasons if they want to disagree with the issue here.
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I understand that it can be frustrating when you make a strong effort to enact a change that you feel is very reasonable and feel like people aren't listening to you, but that is the nature of the beast. It happens to everyone that makes CRTs at one point or another, because each person's sense of reason and logic is different. In the future, avoid lashing out at people just because they do not share your intuitive sense about a subject.
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I understand you and I'm curious what Antvasima thoughts are on the current situation here.
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