It’s still to be decided how the 5-A rating will be applied. His first key will either be Low 5-B or 5-A
Eseseso was referring to lifting strength
Oh, prolly Class 1 unless we find anything. Post-Star Allies will be Class Y via Elfilis iirc
It seems Elfilis didn't actually move the planet with TK sadly. He just made a big portal and let gravity do the rest
It was directly stated and shown that Elfilis pulled the planet through the vortex. Roche Limit is what tore apart the planets when they got close
Stellar actually, due to the force part of the calc
Gravity wouldn't pull it in it that fast though
@Winter Also in case you missed it, this is my new argument in favor of scaling Kirby to 5-A. Essentially, energy in a system cannot be created or destroyed, only converted into another form. Thus, the energy in the "Zero system" would always be this 5-A level of energy.
Nova example makes sense to be 5-A, so no matter if we agree to Zero’s KE = Smaller State, he’s going to get 5-A scaling off of Kirby
What 3-C? I don’t remember any 3-C threads recently aside from the one already on the profiles
The energy is simply converted to a different form. Zero himself is a system, just as each human body is a system. So, even if he turns into a smaller state, the total energy in him will still amount to 5-A levels of energy.
You mean like Ant-man?
I got no idea man
It's just that usually if a human were to turn smaller, they wouldn't keep that same human lvl strength.
I am taking a guess here and assuming you think his natural size is the big one. I genuinely doubt that size is the bigger one. Scaling him off of other unique Dark Matter, they’re way smaller than a Thicc Zero. Considering his small size has to gain lots of mass to equal the big, I feel Thicc Eye would be > Smol Eye
What tier will the pre-Super Star characters be at? Low 5-B? High 6-A?
Still not sure about that last part, but I'll leave it up to you guys
The very first key is Pre-Canvas Curse, so there's no reason to worry about that.
I did completely forget that Magolor can do this, actually. That does seem to more so support that he's actually affecting an Interstellar range
I didn’t say only the ground was moved. I said the distance the spatial manipulation affected is interminable. Space bending the area doesn’t automatically mean the stars are too. Their light would bend no matter the range it affected.
This point doesn’t make sense. If the light of the Star is bent, you wouldn’t see the same star perfectly. It’s being distorted. Popstar can still have it’s light move around due to distortions and not actually move on it’s own.
It being easier to add doesn’t prove that point to be anymore right or the other wrong. The other Spatial Manipulation feat still would follow the same as this one. Space is distorted, no telling the distance it covers.
All I'm gonna add here is that technically it can via Occam's Razor
I meeeean, true but it’s doesn’t 100% define that the simpler one is always correct. Take a show for instance that uses this often, The Watcher. They use this to eliminate 2 of the neighbors off their suspect list (I think I’m referring to the right moment, may be wrong) but turns out they were wrong and they were added back as a potential suspect. Point here being Occam’s razor isn’t a 100% efficient way to come to a conclusion. It just chooses a similar explanation over a more complicated one.
I agree it definitely could be taken into account, but I’m still sticking with the removal. The feat is confusing given how spatial manipulation works and I’d be willing to go with the conclusion that it’s interminable rather than assuming it’s outright moving the stars
What in the false equivalence-
Because it’s easier? Why remove everything before when you can do it all while other revisions are applied. Really doesn’t make sense to do it at different times, it would just take longer waiting for them before you actually apply the main points in the op
Because the accuracy of Kirby's profile should be prioritized before checking to see which matches may or may not be irrelevant!
Well, I'm not going to remove those MU myself. Remove them also means removing them from the other profiles, not just the Kirby characters.
It seems clear after months that nobody cares to do that job, so I disagree, and doubt the care put into prioritizing that. You need to link the thread that causes the change in the summary when editing a profile.
Still easier doing those at once. Removing all of them on the Kirby profiles brings it down to like half of the MU’s necessary to remove. Just wait a little, matchups aren’t a 110% priority here
Tbf you are simply just asking to a wide audience like “hey anyone who views this thread, remove these matchups” without actually being clear cut. Like the profiles aren’t even open in the first place. You need to dedicate time to when the profiles are actually all open so you can take it down in all one fell swoop and not waste time doing it at separate times.
