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Kirby revisions: Everything coming full circle
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We decided to save that for another time I thought? I mean, unless we wanna do it now to get it over with.
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Some patience. Everything needs to be added first, that is the stuff we agreed on, it's on the OP and all the things in this sandbox, then Eseseso said he was going to remove the outdated vsthreads from the Kirby profiles and the profiles of the opponents.
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wait did this thread get accepted by other mods? It's been so long that i forgot
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I'll get on that soon.
Edit: Looking at all of Kirby's fights, none of them seemed to use the First Key, so I think we're good.
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Arkidemon vs Kirby came out in 2018. Iirc that’s when Kirby had his OG 5-A key via black hole feats. Not sure if it should be removed or not
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Nope
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The what now?
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The Class 1 LS Kirby gets for flinging the whale
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Btw Efficient, can you please give your input on this thread?
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Thanks.
Tomorrow I'll maybe finish the edits, then I'll see the 24 notifications I have for the wiki that I ignored before, and then I will see that thread, which I remember seeing once and thinking "Well I kinda disagree with this".
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Gotchu
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I'm adding this calc to Nightmare's profile right now, @CloverDragon03 can you remove or strike like this the New Moon Size part? Again, we have a solid statement of there being many moons on Popstar and those 2 not being the same.
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Got it
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Fodder calc
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Didn't Clover remake that one but properly?
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We don't know how much of that mass was Dark Matter or simply non-sentient clouds. A Dark Matter regrows from the darkness scattered around in the final level, and the fact that 0 can be inside the big black ball that is the Hyper Zone means that his whole body wasn't the Hyper Zone itself, but that he was smaller. His only confirmed size during the feat was the red eye, not the black mass around it.
Anyway, I'm almost done with the edits.
Anyway, I'm almost done with the edits.
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why is hyness 4-A?
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why? do you have a statement in this CRT regarding that? Cause you can't just do an update without anyone's notice. If you have a mention of it in the OP then It is ok
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???
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The CRT has nothing about revising Hyness' tier, I want to know why you revised it and what part of the CRT suggests this change.
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wdym it's own edit? You don't just change a tier without a crt
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I just changed his Kirby-level SS to Unknown in base and Kirby-level after being amped, because he only shows the latter after being amped, the former having no evidence. Your issue seems to be the act itself rather than any lack of accuracy in it, is this so?
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Technically yeah, I just wish you presented it correctly so we could have evaluated it before you applied it.
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I relooked at this and disagree heavily. Hyness never amped himself from the Mage Sisters, he absorbed their life-force. He never gains any strength or anything, he’s just enraged when unhooded.
You also never looked at the thread
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Idk the damage values, but his durability is better, he can physically attack whereas before it wasn't proven that he could, he moves faster than before, and can attack with more energy balls than before. We don't know what those energies he took were, we don't know if they were "lie-force" that only healed him, and we can't say that he can do all this before that and that he was just enraged as it would be standard to assume that he gained all this when gaining something possitive yet unknown.
I could change it to "Fought Kirby and three other Star Allies at once after they defeated the Three Mage-Sisters. His magical attacks are portrayed as needing to be dodged. All of his attacks are around as powerful, some of them being of the same elements as the Mage Sisters, which are all magic; As Hyness is considered a genius among the mages & an elite mage, his use of those elements should be around as strong, if not stronger. It's up to interpretation if he's stronger than the Mage-Sisters in his first phase given that, gameplay wise, he has lower health and he's a less challenging fighter, though those may be his only limitations, which he lacks in his second phase as he absorbed energies from the Thres Mage Sisters [If with Zan Partizanne being unconsciously defeated at the time], now being able to attack physically and shoot more energy attacks at a time, potentially implying he became stronger"
And did and left a comment.
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you didn't doe, unless you are talking about the crown one
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More of an attack choice I’d presume. Besides, he does swat away Zan Partizanne flying into the other direction before his fight. Gameplay mechanics shouldn’t be used in determining his strength, especially in a incredibly easy story mode. He’s fought after them and has been stated to be the one to have granted them all of their powers. It could potentially be rage power, but not much implies he got physically stronger from them, especially since he made them that powerful.
You did not, you replied to the 2-C CRT. I was talking about the one Arceus made that’s upgrading RTDL characters to 3-C to 3-B
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Well,
- Zan didn't make any sound, we don't know if he caused her any harm. If he didn't, it makes perfect sense that he flew as he was unconscious.
- This aren't gameplay mechanics, it's gameplay, health and skill are true to his character, and the standard, reasonable assumption is that the boss that comes after another boss is as strong, if not stronger, but this characteristics Hyness has challenges that notion.
- There is no reason to say he just caused them to be as powerful with magic as they are now, rather than allowing them to have magic, and that over the years they became as strong as they are now.
Didn't see it, can't wait for that rule that limits threads for verse on around 1 at a time.
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Hey. So, see the sun and moon fighting in MWW's game map? If you wait long enough they vary they way in which they fight, and in 1 particular move they do they move super fast like it's DBZ at what should be very close to the speed of light. We should have that calc'd.
This is the best I could find for it (I didn't try very much), they start moving here and finish moving here.
You guys know where the scaling of this will lead to. Also remember, there are many suns & moons in Popstar, this ones are the size they're shown to be, it's a tiny sun.
This is the best I could find for it (I didn't try very much), they start moving here and finish moving here.
You guys know where the scaling of this will lead to. Also remember, there are many suns & moons in Popstar, this ones are the size they're shown to be, it's a tiny sun.
