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[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Would thiscount as BFR for Hisako? It's her stage after all, and she can summon the same hands as well.

 

[Hellbeast1]

He had an opponent with Probability hax tho (a rematch would be fun tho)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

More Gargos abilities...sigh

Gargos can create duplicates of people (called Mimics) and they retain their abilities, giving him Duplication. He also used this ability to trick Jago into defeating a clone of himself.

He has Telekinesis since he did a force choke on Jago when he stepped into his dimension

He gets Power Bestowal based on this

 

[Hellbeast1]

Ooh Gargos is hax (if only him and Kahn were the same tier)

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Would thiscount as BFR for Hisako? It's her stage after all, and she can summon the same hands as well.

Yeah, actually it would

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

Still looking for feats and hax and still questioning if we can use the 90s KI comics

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Nvm Hellbeast said they weren't canon so RIP

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I should probably just go ahead and add the abilities.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Eyedol's profile is here, I would appreciate if someone can make a summary for his profile.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Xtasyamphetamine/Eyedol

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Btw more Gargos hax smh

https://www.ultra-combo.com/characters/eyedol/

Gargos finally cleaved Eyedol's skull with a tremendous stroke of his claw, and then pulled apart the stunned ogre's head like two sides of a rotten apple. Eyedol fell dead upon the Astral Plane, his spirit fleeing from his corpse before Gargos could capture it.

Our lord and savior Gargos tried to claim his soul after he killed Eyedol so he should have OoC Soul Manipulation

 

[Hellbeast1]

For Eyedol I'd note giving him fire Manip as well as noting that Gargos had to actually retreat from him in the Astral Plane.

Also I'd add his OG powers whih would be attack reflection, healing fire manip, energy projection and immortality

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Healing fire manip?

He already has attack reflection, energy projection and immortality but I'm not sure what kind of immortality he should have since you didn't specify

 

[Hellbeast1]

Damn phone lol. What I mean is Retro Eyed has Fire Manipulation (launches fire balls) as well as healing (that cheapass stomp). For Immortality I'd suggest just type 1 for Retro (since he's just able to not age)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I thought these guys only have one key?

 

[Hellbeast1]

As of now but since the reboot changed them up they should have keys for the Arcade and Current Timelines

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I'll do that later

Right now I'm replacing the KI profile renders, go check out Jago's if you think it's good

 

[Hellbeast1]

When did Shago go Ultra Instinct owo?

Nah but real talk it's pretty solid (I'd also suggest adding the comic design for Gargos since that's just ******* metal)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I'll try finding a full body picture of that

 

[Hellbeast1]

I'd recommend the wiki or just making the render direct from a comic site or something

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Btw Hellbeast do you have that storm feat for Thunder that you said in this thread?

 

[Hellbeast1]

Here at 1:48 onwards (It's more along the lines of Jago's Ultra collapsing a bell but it's pretty good)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Been a while since I've played KI but can't the other combatants do the rain and tornado stuff as well?

 

[Hellbeast1]

I think so yes

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I'll probs investigate it for meself

Because I need to make sure Thunder can do that and not the others

 

[Hellbeast1]

Okay I'm back with an old idea. Why do we not have separate keys for the KI cast?

Like Glacius' feat takes place in his KI 2 ending so why do we scale ARIA and such to it?

We don't scale all the OG MK characters to 7-B because of Raiden's storm summoning in the new timeline since there is no equivalent in the old timeline for that feat nor any justification for the old and current scaling being merged (Scorpion in the old games is rated far lower then Raiden and his ilk despite breaking his jaw in the new games' canon)

This also doesn't touch on the MULTIPLE discrepancies between the two storylines. For example Gargos in the old games was a man obsessed with power before being cursed into his current form. In the new game Gargos is a cosmic being from another dimension who inspired the image of gargoyles and this extends to the other reimagined old cast.

So here's my suggestion

Classic KI:

7-C (6-C if that calc gets accepted) with MHS+ combat and reactions

Pretty much everyone scales to each other since no canon scaling chain even exists (Eyedol is portrayed as MILES above everyone in the comic but that's not canon)

Modern KI:

Not sure what the low tiers should scale to but I'd suggest calcing Ultra combos honestly.

This extends to TJ (shown to be puffed out by racing Maya), Fulgore (Gets beat by Tusk and TJ Combo), maybe Orchid (Shown to be relatively comparable to TJ) and Riptor (Holds her own against TJ, gets fodderized by Warg Gram) not sure who else scales to this honestly (I assume the weakened versions of the Shadow Lords characters)

Mid Tiers would scale to OG Glacius and Tusk (since the Tusk in this game is canonically the one from the old games meaning he scales to the Old Game feats)

Includes: Tusk, ARIA (If memory serves mecha bae fights him or at least harms him), Shadow Jago (Fights Tusk but loses), Omen (Source of Shago's power), maybe Jago (Fights him in Shadow Lords), Hisako (Beats ARIA), Aganos (Implied to have fought Tusk), Cinder (Beat Aganos in Season 2), Kan Ra (He's Aganos' rival for god' sake) Glacius (Blitzed and bested ARIA) etc.

Top Tiers scale to Gargos obviously.

Gargos, End of Shadow Lords Jago, Tusk and Kim Wu. Maybe Shinsako but I'm unsure. Eyedol (The guy beat Gargos and even after being worn down in the Astral Plane fought Gargos on even terms, stomped Kan Ra and is generally put down as a God and one of the strongest characters)

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Look back at the calc

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

About Chief Thunder's storm

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DMUA/Standard_calculation_for_just_any_old_generic_storm

Thunder's storm has tornados and heavy rain in it coupled with a side of lightning bolts and dark clouds, so I think it fits this one:

If it's literally a tornado boi acting like it's 1999: 5.939037654986E16 Joules, 14.1946406667937 Megatons, City level

 

[Hellbeast1]

Ah I see thanks (Good upgrade albeit a miss on my part)

Also what do you think of my scaling suggestion (Sorry if it's a bit cluttered)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I'd say it seems good, but Tusk should stay on Gargos' level since it was him who killed Gargos during Shadow Lords.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

We should call Dark649 about what he thinks of this

 

[Hellbeast1]

Oh my bad (I meant to add Shadow Lords Tusk as well lol)

 

[Hellbeast1]

And yes I agree (if you'd like I can contact him later today.)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

And yes I agree (if you'd like I can contact him later today.)

Go ahead

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Also, Hellbeast, if that's what you'd like me to look at can you specify the links/statements I need for that? Thunder's can probably fit under the standard calc for a storm of such severity, which I believe comes out to low-end 7-B. Whether or not that's Environmental Damage is not up to me.

Here's the storm, he's doing it as a result of his attacks

 

[Hellbeast1]

I think I missed that request lol (I'd also throw in the bell dropping since that's a fun one as well.)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Btw I just realized Fulgore can teleport

 

[Hellbeast1]

Oh yeah he can eh? Kinda forgot that.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I should prolly upgrade Glacius' range when the calc gets accepted.

 

[Dark649]

I asked for an evaluation about Glacius calc here.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Excellent (on an unrelated note what do you think about the scaling suggestions?)