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King Hassan's Tier II
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My point is that Hassan is hax not AP so get the AP rating out of there.ShinyMagicalGirl said:
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Because death hax lets you cut the wing off of a 2-A and not just kill it
That makes all of the sense
That makes all of the sense
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As stated multiple times on this thread
Hassan's hax isn't the durability negating kind, he still needs to physically cut you in order to deathhax you
So even if he used hax on her (he didn't, but for the sake of argument let's assume he did), he still had to be strong enough to physically cut her wing off to hax her anyway
So yes, he should scale
Hassan's hax isn't the durability negating kind, he still needs to physically cut you in order to deathhax you
So even if he used hax on her (he didn't, but for the sake of argument let's assume he did), he still had to be strong enough to physically cut her wing off to hax her anyway
So yes, he should scale
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Sure.Hl3 or bust said:
It's fiction, who cares if it doesn't make sense to you.
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That's not what death hax does by definition
Death hax does not make durabilty not matter against your attacks, it makes things drop dead, which Tiamat pretty clearly didn't.
Death hax does not make durabilty not matter against your attacks, it makes things drop dead, which Tiamat pretty clearly didn't.
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What they are discussing currently is on topic.Antvasima said:
It's just there's a disagreement about how it should go for KH tiering
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This is 100% the main topic of this thread
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I hope you aren't counting me btw.BakiHanma18 said:
My no was a joke
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I'm dumb, I saw the owo, said "Oh he must be joking", and still put down the wrong voteSleepyTBubble said:
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2 votes yes to 1 vote no for 2-A Hassan
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I think I would prefer at least High 7-A (or whatever we have QSH at), possibly 2-A
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I vote yes for the possible incoming DLC character for Dark Souls
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Paul Frank said:
For obvoius reasons I'm voting yes. One thing though.
Enkidu's chains--specifically a counter to divine entities like TIamat--could only hold her down for 1 HOUR. In earlier attacks, IIRC it couldn't pierce her or do any significant damage.
And this was Kingu using his living body.
That King Hassan could cut off both her wings with one strike is a statement to his AP. It just wasn't the main point of the attack.
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I still completely disagree, but more people seem to side for 2-A so I think this should be added?
And Hi3, what you think and what happens are entirely different things. Death hax can and has been used to ignore durability in Fate, is how Eyes of Death Perception work.
And Hi3, what you think and what happens are entirely different things. Death hax can and has been used to ignore durability in Fate, is how Eyes of Death Perception work.
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If King Hassan had the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, then perhaps he could ignore durability with his cuts, but he has never shown to have them, so it's a leap to assume his works the same way
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Mystic Eyes of Death Perception merely allow the person to perceive death. Hence the name. I find it weird to assume someone like King Hassan can't perceive death - Azrael is not even his main death hax, is just a side thing.
But agai obviously the majority is up for bumping his AP to 2-A so it should be fine to add.
But agai obviously the majority is up for bumping his AP to 2-A so it should be fine to add.
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We can discuss the specifics after deciding whether or not to go forward with entertaining 2-AIapitus The Impaler said:
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Currently 4-1 in favor of 2-A
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Voting yes.
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Make that 5-1
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6-1, and I'll make 7 (just realized I haven't voted, I vote yes as well)
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I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to vote, but if I am, then I vote "Yes". King Hassan should scale to Tiamat, whatever tier that might be.
At some point, I'd like to talk about his Grand Servant rank and how he actually lost it, too. Because there seems to be a misunderstanding about that bit as well.
At some point, I'd like to talk about his Grand Servant rank and how he actually lost it, too. Because there seems to be a misunderstanding about that bit as well.
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For the record, I also think best Gramps should scale to Tiamat, wherever tier she sends up in. Yes for me as well!
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9-1. I think we can move forward with the specifics of what his new AP should be (likely 2-A, High 7-A, possibly 2-A, etc)
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Just make it plainly the same tier as Tiamat. A fellow Grand Servant, Solomon, is just flatout Goetia tier anyways. So First Hassan should be the same.
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Sound good to me. Is everyone okay if King Hassan's AP is the same tier as Tiamat?
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That's a actually a good point. I didnt think about that. However, I do still think we should have some kind of stat range for himShinyMagicalGirl said:
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What would you suggest? High 7-A, likely/possibly 2-A as stated earlier? Or something else?Iapitus The Impaler said:
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I think it would be at least 6-C, possibly 2-A, yeah
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I don't really see the need for a stat range tbh, a 6-C wouldn't have been able to cut her wing off no matter what, so it wouldn't make sense for him to be that
So I'm against a tier range, he should just be plain 2-A for the Grand key
So I'm against a tier range, he should just be plain 2-A for the Grand key
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Likely or At Least 2-A for the Grand key sounds fine.
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Alright, let's vote again: Range for tier range, ~ for likely, possibly, at least, or around
