King additional justifications

[Sus]

Kaido took a Paradise Waterfall from the OG Oden and was relatively ok besides the scar.

oden couldve killed kaido iirc but even if not king shouldve got a huge scar

Dude, Kaido's a ******* tank.

Hurting him and cutting his scales is step 1, but what about steps 2-10?

real, i really hate how charachters are downscaled from his dura because they barely cut him or made him flinch

 

[Eseseso]

oden couldve killed kaido iirc but even if not king shouldve got a huge scar

Blame Oda.

real, i really hate how charachters are downscaled from his dura because they barely cut him or made him flinch

Tbf, the Scabbards also scale to hurting each other, and they took hits from a casual Kaido.

They also scale to Jack, who took hits from Issho.

 

[Sus]

Tbf, the Scabbards also scale to hurting each other, and they took hits from a casual Kaido.

They also scale to Jack, who took hits from Issho.

yeah but you know... 1/4

 

[Eseseso]

yeah but you know... 1/4

Hey, I'm in favor of that and so is the majority of OP people on this site, Kingtempest is the one who keeps vetoing it.

Only people like Queen should downscale (although IMO Queen's Zoan and above should scale to the God Tier value as well for various reasons)

 

[Sus]

Hey, I'm in favor of that and so is the majority of OP people on this site, Kingtempest is the one who keeps vetoing it.

Only people like Queen should downscale (although IMO Queen's Zoan and above should scale to the God Tier value as well for various reasons)

i think queen scales to the top tier in dura he lacks ap feat

 

[Eminiteable]

I was talking about when King overpowered Zoro's Tiger Hunt in 1027 but it cracked his mask.

OH right, I could be wrong but this is the bruise Here.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Ivankov is done much dirtier but this has nth to with the CTR so I'll leave. Sorry for the distraction.

Ivankov is doodoo.
Imagine not being H6A in 2023.

 

[Sus]

Ivankov is doodoo.
Imagine not being H6A in 2023.

a particular son of big mom

 

[Eseseso]

OH right, I could be wrong but this is the bruise Here.

I see the bruise, but if I'm being honest that's a tiny scratch.

My guess is the shockwave from their clash caused it, but it's such a tiny wound that IMO it doesn't change that his flame-less Hybrid directly clashed with BoKF Buso Zoro and was unharmed.

i think queen scales to the top tier in dura he lacks ap feat

I have opinions on this

 

[DaMonkeMan]

a particular son of big mom

Every* son of BM.
Kind of funny how they're the weakest Emperor crew bar BM now.

 

[Eseseso]

Every* son of BM.
Kind of funny how they're the weakest Emperor crew bar BM now.

I wish that fanmade fight between injured Katakuri and the BB commanders (and BB himself if the manga had ever continued) was canon.

 

[Sus]

I have opinions on this

not too bad

Every* son of BM.
Kind of funny how they're the weakest Emperor crew bar BM now.

yeah but the only one getting hyped to be a top tier is the blitzing kaido allegations

 

[Eminiteable]

I wish that fanmade fight between injured Katakuri and the BB commanders (and BB himself if the manga had ever continued) was canon.

Reality:

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I wish that fanmade fight between injured Katakuri and the BB commanders (and BB himself if the manga had ever continued) was canon.

not too bad

yeah but the only one getting hyped to be a top tier is the blitzing kaido allegations

That guy got banned on the verge of being a troll, liar, and just generally unpleasant.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Reality:

 

[Sus]

That guy got banned on the verge of being a troll, liar, and just generally unpleasant.

kaido beat the allegations

 

[DaMonkeMan]

kaido beat the allegations

I made a joke scaling chain in July based off the chapter where Aramaki fights the Scabbards

"Katakuri = gear fourth WCI Luffy
Gear fourth WCI luffy can only get knocked out by a full power Thunder Bagua
Full Power Thunder Bagua is superior to full power Thunder Bagua by hybrid Yamato
Unnamed club attack Yamato uses in the current chapter is far weaker due to being in base and not having as much murderous intent and strength
Thus if a full power thunder bagua is what's needed to knock out post WCI Luffy ( who doesn't yet have much amps to his durability ) who is as durable as Katakuri, then Katakuri should be able to tank the attack Yamato used in this chapter since it's far below the needed attack potency to knock him out. "


KAIDOU AIN'T PASS THE ALLEGATIONS YET

 

[Sus]

if kaido fights katakuri hes getting a new brother

anyway i think this crt is done

 

[Eseseso]

not too bad

Thanks.

yeah but the only one getting hyped to be a top tier is the blitzing kaido allegations

Screw that guy, so glad he got the ban he deserved (which he got for spamming Ant's wall despite numerous warnings).

Reality:

Hence me saying I wish it was canon.

 

[Eseseso]

AKA the Katakuri we deserved.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

AKA the Katakuri we deserved.

Sadly Shiryu is Bogard's hypetool so I don't know if that'd all work out anyway.

 

[Eseseso]

Sadly Shiryu is Bogard's hypetool so I don't know if that'd all work out anyway.

Speaking of Shiryu, Imma probably make a CRT soon to remove his 7-A low-end.

 

[Eminiteable]

Speaking of Shiryu, Imma probably make a CRT soon to remove his 7-A low-end.

Going to bring up the No.2 strength stuff from that one color spread?

 

[Eseseso]

Going to bring up the No.2 strength stuff from that one color spread?

I didn't think about that, I just think they should all be comparable.

But yeah, the #2 thing helps.

 

[Eminiteable]

I didn't think about that, I just think they should all be comparable.

But yeah, the #2 thing helps.

Doubt they'll all be comparable. The No.2 spread was directly in reference to who the second strongest in the crew are as mentioned in the SBS with Sulong Bepo, so Shiryu would scale above the likes of Burgess & Aokiji.

 

[Eseseso]

Doubt they'll all be comparable. The No.2 spread was directly in reference to who the second strongest in the crew are as mentioned in the SBS with Sulong Bepo, so Shiryu would scale above the likes of Burgess & Aokiji.

1. I'm still waiting/hoping for High 6-A Base Bepo and a badass Sulong Bepo.

2. Burgess, yes. Aokiji? Ehhhhhh...

IIRC he's not one of BB's 10 Titanic Commanders

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Doubt they'll all be comparable. The No.2 spread was directly in reference to who the second strongest in the crew are as mentioned in the SBS with Sulong Bepo, so Shiryu would scale above the likes of Burgess & Aokiji.

Don't know who made the video this appears in but Oda might genuinely think Kuzan isn't an authentic member, not a titanic captain, or is a traitor.

 

[Fireld]

anyway i think this crt is done

Done for as in going completly off rails, yes

 

[Eseseso]

For Flame-less Base King, his profile can say:

"His flame-less durability should be comparable to his AP. Took hits from King of Hell Zoro, but was badly injured".

For Flame-less Zoan King, his justification can say:

"Even without the flames on his back, his Hybrid form was unharmed from a clash with Roronoa Zoro's Tiger Hunt"

And Zoro did use Buso in his Tiger hunt, as shown by the red lightning from the clash.

 

[Sus]

Took hits from King of Hell Zoro, but was badly injured"

"took" ehh just say he didnt fall or get one shot

 

[Eseseso]

"took" ehh just say he didnt fall or get one shot

Same thing.

If I'd said that he'd tanked hits that'd be something else.

 

[Sus]

also why consider kings late feats against zoro invalid because he blocked him? cant king get stronger mid fight too

 

[Eseseso]

also why consider kings late feats against zoro invalid because he blocked him? cant king get stronger mid fight too

Nah, that's a shonen hero thing only.

 

[Sus]

Same thing.

If I'd said that he'd tanked hits that'd be something else.

"wasnt one shot [or any alt word] by king of hell zoro, even though he suffered damage" man idk

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Nah, that's a shonen hero thing only.

Kaidou, Croco, Akainu, Lucci, Kaku, Buggy ( sort of ), etc. disprove that.

 

[Eseseso]

Kaidou, Croco, Akainu, Lucci, Kaku, Buggy ( sort of ), etc. disprove that.

Yeah but they didn't use reactive evolution mid-fight.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yeah but they didn't use reactive evolution mid-fight.

Kaidou got stronger Haki mid fight, Akainu was implied to have a Haki bloom during his fight with Kuzan.

 

[Eseseso]

Kaidou got stronger Haki mid fight

That's an ability (Shuron Hakke), not RE.

 

[Eminiteable]

2. Burgess, yes. Aokiji? Ehhhhhh...

IIRC he's not one of BB's 10 Titanic Commanders

He's the No.2 of the entire crew which Kuzan is apart of. As for the commander role Kuzan is most likely the tenth unrevealed member.

"His flame-less durability should be comparable to his AP. Took hits from King of Hell Zoro, but was badly injured".

And Zoro did use Buso in his Tiger hunt, as shown by the red lightning from the clash.

Still disagree with this being a durability feat, it would be classified under endurance.

Colored Scans aren't out yet so not sure what the support for red lightning is.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

He's the No.2 of the entire crew which Kuzan is apart of. As for the commander role Kuzan is most likely the tenth unrevealed member.

Don't know who made the video this appears in but Oda might genuinely think Kuzan isn't an authentic member, not a titanic captain, or is a traitor.