KH Profile Rules Issues

[GiverOfThePeace]

It's literally stated by FGM that's their spirit. He scales in no way since as already explained it's via a summon amp, and again, how does Mulan scale to her guardian spirit

You can have 1 meter AoE and still move blocks out of the way, that's not going to suddenly give them the inability to move it out of the way if they have sufficient AP.

 

[Bobsican]

When is stated that summons get amped exactly? Because you know, burden of proof fallacy and all, but outside of that, yeah, if Mushu is amped she can't scale as much.

PIS it is the

For real... fine, I guess Woody and Buzz can't scale as well in that case.

 

[Bobsican]

Okay, I guess everyone is fine with the profiles that can't scale to tier 4 at all be edited to just be "Unknown" for now?

Which would be:

James P. Sullivan (Kingdom Hearts)

Mike Wazowski (Kingdom Hearts)

Woody (Kingdom Hearts)

Buzz Lightyear (Kingdom Hearts)

Mulan and Mushu (Kingdom Hearts) - I´m not sure how this one could be properly edited

Tarzan (Kingdom Hearts)

There's also Tron/Rinzler (Kingdom Hearts), but I'm still not as sure on this one.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

Make a key for his regular self, then a key for his summoned self. Suggestion for Tron: can get Unknown "possibly High 4-C" and explain in the note the possibly comes from the fact that he's not exactly a world bound by borders.

 

[Bobsican]

I think just making a separate profile altogether for Mushu would be better, the Mulan and Mushu one will just be set at Unknown as Mushu by himself was simply amped, respectively.

And I´ll go ahead and do that to Tron, thanks.

Anyone may feel free to downgrade the rest to just Unknown

RIP the toy matches

Edit: After thinking more the Mushu part... yeah, just making a separate key is better overall.

 

[Bobsican]

Okay just finished.

I guess we can now start with the Heartless scaling.

Unversed have no notable feats as far I know (scaling a simple Flood to Vanitas would be absurd), while Dream Eaters just upscale to Komory Bat or Meow Wow respectively.

The most important part should be Heartless, of which I probably can think some feats related to what they can absorb, a "heart", of which a single one can hold/create a "world" and all (Looks at the Sora Vs. Roxas fight in KHII and the entirety of CoM)

If the above is right, then a simple Shadow is actually High 4-C, albeit a lower degree than the main cast.

 

[Eficiente]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tarzan_(Kingdom_Hearts)?diff=5466874&oldid=5421697

The rules on the site regarding the verse don't need to be mentioned at all. An elaboration on why the characters don't scale should be done in the profiles.

And I'm just assuming it comes from this thread, as usual Bobsican didn't informed that in the summary.

 

[Bobsican]

Yes, it comes from here, sorry.

Anyways, what exact elaboration should be done instead in that case? I thought just mentioning the rule like how I did would be more than enought, as otherwise it would just be "Has nothing to scale to beyond basic Heartless" or something like that, which sounds very barebones than what I did instead, at least if you ask me.

 

[Bobsican]

Also, Jack Sparrow (Kingdom Hearts) maybe should be set to Unknown too? The best I can think of him is that Luxord doesn't take him lightly.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

Yes.

I'll be unfollowing from this thread now, if I am really needed just DM me on wall.

 

[Bobsican]

Very well, thanks.

Okay, as this issue was completed, this thread can be closed now.

The continuation for discussion on the tiering for fodder-sort Heartless to scale those currently at "Unknown" is here.