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Kamen Rider Zi-O Conceptual Revision

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Well, it's another thread of me with the Zi-O's shenanigans, i guess you wouldn't be surprise anyway. Today thread is about Ridewatch and its conceptual relation.

Rider's power​

Rider are the axis of their worlds/universes, the power inside them are what keep the world in stable, Tsukuyomi's world which lacked of such abstract was about to perish even though her world existed time control power. On the other hand Swartz who is originated from the world of Tsukuyomi, had obtained Kamen Rider Decade power and become Another Rider (Kamen Rider in a sense) yet his world couldn't be revive.
When Riderwatches + Another Ridewatches converge in Sougo's world, the other worlds also moved and merged together
ライダーの力は、各世界を守るものであり、そのためライダーが存在しないツクヨミの世界は、滅びの時を迎えることになってしまった。 また、 各世界はライダーの力に依存しているとも考えられ、ライダーの力が他の世界に移動すると、 世界そのものが移動してしまうようだ。そのため、ソウゴの世界にライダーの力を持つアナザーウォッチやライドウォッチが集まることで、各ライダーの世界がソウゴの世界と融合してしまったのかもしれない。
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The rider's power was what protects each world, and thus the world of Tsukuyomi that lacked the Riders, is doomed to destruction. In addition, it is thought that each world depends on the rider's power, and when the rider's power moves to another world, the world itself seems to move. As a result, the world of each rider may have fused with Sougo's world as Another Watch and Ridewatch with the power of riders gathered in Sougo's world.
(Kamen Rider Zi-O Chouzenshu)
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That means Rider power is fundamental concept of each worlds/universes, thus even if the worlds/histories of each correspond riders was destroyed or erased, their power remain existed which mean Rider's powers are Independent Universal Concepts

Ridewatches​

Universal​

  • Conceptual Absorption: Since Ridewatch could take power of Rider himself, it should have Conceptual Absorption, an example for this Kamen Rider Chalice who's originally a Undead, should have been disappeared after got his power absorbed yet turned to human being which imply that the Ridewatch had taken his abstraction power as a Joker (Undead)

  • Soul Manipulation: According to WOG and some feats have been shown the Tv series, movie, the Ridewatch can have Soul Manipulation due to store/absorb the soul of Kamen Rider themself

  • Minor Resistance to Conceptual Power Absorption for all Rider in Zi-O and Fully Resistance for Man Of Beginning Gaim:
ライダーの力は、 アナザーウォッチやライドウォッチによって奪われてしまうが、本人から発現するものであるため、全てが奪われてしまうわけではないらしい。 少なくともアナザーウォッチに力が奪われた後も、ライドウォッチを生み出すことが可能なぐらいの力は残るようだ。 実際にタイムジャッカーが仮面ライダークウガの力をアナザーウォッチに吸い取った後に、 ゲイツがライドウォッチにクウガの力を得ることに成功している。 また、ディケイドの士も、有事に備え、自らの力を半分だけライドウォッチに注いでいた。 歴史改変によって、 変身者が仮面ライダーにならなかった場合も、変身者の体にはライダーの力は宿っている。 ビーストの仁藤や鎧武の紘汰など、いつの間にかライドウォッチを持っていた場合があったが、これは何らかのきっかけで本人が持つライダーの力が、ライドウォッチに宿ったものと考えられる。
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Rider's power can be stolen by Another Watch or Ridewatch, but since it manifests from the person himself, it seems that not all of it is taken away. At the very least, it seems that even after the power is taken away by Another Watch, it still has enough power to create a Ridewatch. After Time Jacker absorbed Kamen Rider Kuuga's power into Another Watch, Geiz also succeeded in getting Kuuga's power into Ridewatch. In addition, Decade aka Tsukasa was preparing for emergencies by pouring half of his power into the Ridewatch. Even if the transformation doesn’t become a Kamen Rider due to the alteration of history, the rider's power resides in the body of the transformer. There were cases where Beast's Nito and Gaim's Kouta had a Ridewatch before they knew it, but this is thought to be due to the power of the Rider that the person himself possessed dwelling in the Ridewatch for some reason.
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Innate​

  • Sougo
Conceptual Manipulation (creation): in Zi-O II arc for creating Kamen Rider Kikai's world/timeline and Another Kikai from his dreams, this action is also listed as the creation power of Ohma Zi-O in a sense it'll be the same case as Kamen Rider Tsukuyomi

Resistance to Conceptual Nullification with Higher form than Zi-O II (Zi-O Trinity, Grand Zi-O,...): Can resist the effection of Shiro Woz book.
https://imgur.com/WDaK9Z9
Resistance Conceptual Gravity Manipulation (exclusive to Over Quartzer): Sougo was caple of resisting Dai Mazine's gravity manipulation which sucked all those born in Heisei except those from different era
https://imgur.com/a/wKmL7a5
  • Shiro Woz/Kamen Rider Diend
Conceptual Nullification and Conceptual Empowerment: Be cable of empower Sougo and Tsukuyomi, also nullify Zi-O II's power
https://imgur.com/a/TFuZqwY
https://imgur.com/a/xgd56qF
  • Kamen Rider Barlckxs
Layered Conceptual Nullification, Conceptual Resistance Negation: Cable of nullify all of Heisei Rider's power, negates Sougo's gravity resistance and throw him upon the sky to Dai Mazines.
https://imgur.com/a/sKCFwaF
Deconstruction: In Over Quartzer timeline, it was SOUGO who destroyed the Dai Mazine instead of Sougo
https://i.imgur.com/J8RhxdM.mp4
  • Kamen Rider Oma Zi-O, Ohma Form (SASUGA WAGA MAOU YO!!)
Conceptual Empowerment and Creation: Created Kamen Rider Tsukuyomi and revived her world in responded, empower Sougo with Ohma Zi-O Ridewatch.
Conceptual Resistance Negation: Defeated Barlckxs by the power of Heisei that he resisted.
Resistance to Conceptual Nullification (Two layered), Conceptual Resistance Negation: He's no longer affected by Barlckxs's negation abilities
Resistance to Conceptual Absorption: Resistance to Another Decade power absorption
 
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This seems logical, though I'm not knowledgeable on Kamen Rider but the Riders power being concept related seems straightforward enough given the evidence. I'd like to hear from others knowledgeable on verse.
 
I assume that Zi-O Appearence Riders should get the Minor Resistance to Conceptual Power Absorption part, no?
 
ZeedKZ said:
I assume that Zi-O Appearence Riders should get the Minor Resistance to Conceptual Power Absorption part, no?
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It would be, but i wonder if we could list it in their main profile that too many in a sudden. I've been out of Rider's scaling for a long time
 
The implication of Tsukuyomi's world being destroyed without her should give her Low 2-C environmental destruction upon her death. Since without her, her world will be destroyed.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
The implication of Tsukuyomi's world being destroyed without her should give her Low 2-C environmental destruction upon her death. Since without her, her world will be destroyed.
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What about the other rider? Consider that they are the axis of world, then each kamen rider will be low 2-C via Environmental Destruction!!? Damn, the scaling of Kamen Rider have always be shenanigans.
Also it's apparently the same case of Touma, Tassel and Wonder World
 
Omazio2019 said:
What about the other rider? Consider that they are the axis of world, then each kamen rider will be low 2-C via Environmental Destruction!!? Damn, the scaling of Kamen Rider have always be shenanigans.
Also it's apparently the same case of Touma, Tassel and Wonder World
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Thats what i think,they are the Axis of their own Worlds,you can say that their power/existence are tied to the Universe so when all riders literally gone,then their universes will definitely collapse

Anyway i agree
 
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