Ridewatch ability

[Ultra_hero123]

So does ridewatch take the innate power of the rider as well ?

some people claim that they don't and the ridewatch only take those that have some connection to the armor it self

like for example kamen rider kiva's violin have connect to kiva flight form so it have connection to it

or for kamen rider blade when ohma zi-o use it the stone god stuff didn't appear to end the world

and lastly kamen rider Den-o didn't give singularity point because another den-o doesn't ?

if it does can you show me proof

 

[Ultra_hero123]

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[Nicetoderp]

I mean, it's pretty obvious. In Blade tribute arc as soon as Another Rided Blade being the only Undead alive the world immediately start going sideways.

So yes, Ridewatch stole innate abilities as well. Otherwise, the interaction above simply cannot happened.

 

[Ultra_hero123]

I mean, it's pretty obvious. In Blade tribute arc as soon as Another Rided Blade being the only Undead alive the world immediately start going sideways.

So yes, Ridewatch stole innate abilities as well. Otherwise, the interaction above simply cannot happened.

do you have any other proof like the person i once argue with also said that joker power is part of the rider system ect ect because joker is part of chalice rider system and blade slowly turn you to joker

 

[Nicetoderp]

do you have any other proof like the person i once argue with also said that joker power is part of the rider system ect ect because joker is part of chalice rider system and blade slowly turn you to joker

Yes , but that transformation into Joker Undead required a LOT of time to complete as can be seen by Kanzaki himself

 

[Ultra_hero123]

Yes , but that transformation into Joker Undead required a LOT of time to complete as can be seen by Kanzaki himself

yeah

 

[Omazio2019]

do you have any other proof like the person i once argue with also said that joker power is part of the rider system ect ect because joker is part of chalice rider system and blade slowly turn you to joker

Chalice or Hajime was Joker from very beginning, they might use the power of Undead as Rider power but characteristics of Joker is different.

▶The End of Battle Fighting
　One of the physical characteristics of the Joker (Undead) is that they have green blood in the body. It is believed that through this battle, Kenzaki and Hajime transferred their Kamen Rider powers to Sougo and turned to human beings. As evidence of this, Kenzaki and Hajime had red blood flowing from their wounds after the battle. This would have ended the existence of the Joker itself, and the battle would have come to an end. Freed from the fate of fighting, it is believed that Kenzaki, Hajime, and Amane can finally move forward into the future.
In other case, we have Zi-O Decade Arms with Aurora Curtain which is confirmed to be the fundamental (innate) ability of him

 

[Ultra_hero123]

Chalice or Hajime was Joker from very beginning, they might use the power of Undead as Rider power but characteristics of Joker is different.

▶The End of Battle Fighting
　One of the physical characteristics of the Joker (Undead) is that they have green blood in the body. It is believed that through this battle, Kenzaki and Hajime transferred their Kamen Rider powers to Sougo and turned to human beings. As evidence of this, Kenzaki and Hajime had red blood flowing from their wounds after the battle. This would have ended the existence of the Joker itself, and the battle would have come to an end. Freed from the fate of fighting, it is believed that Kenzaki, Hajime, and Amane can finally move forward into the future.
In other case, we have Zi-O Decade Arms with Aurora Curtain which is confirmed to be the fundamental (innate) ability of him

thanks