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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Sir_Marvulous said:
This is only in Domain Expansion anyway. And ofc he would have Low 7-B dura cuz he can draw blood from a guy amped to a level at which he can endure a Low 7-B attack. That's just Newton's third law
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Domain expansion doesn't have a set amp so whatever amp you use without Statement will be considered as headcanon.
Also Sukuna having Low 7-B durability ≠ his AP will be Low 7-B this is common sense.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Domain expansion doesn't have a set amp so whatever amp you use without Statement will be considered as headcanon.
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Nothing on the profile implies it's a set amp. It just uses the Red feat for scaling
EldemadeDityjon said:
Also Sukuna having Low 7-B durability ≠ his AP will be Low 7-B this is common sense.
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No shit. But he would get it from trading strikes with a guy who can draw blood from him
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Nothing on the profile implies it's a set amp. It just uses the Red feat for scaling
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Red has no scaling to DE
Sir_Marvulous said:
No shit. But he would get it from trading strikes with a guy who can draw blood from him
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Two High 7-C characters throwing hands wouldn't make them Low 7-B. Also what sun stated.
SunDaGamer said:
The side of his face that got hit was heavily disfigured, if he didn't have RCT then he'd be cooked, so his dura doesn't scale directly to Red
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Sir_Marvulous said:
You're being obtuse. The profile itself makes note of Sukuna getting hit with Red while amped by DE. DE scales off of Red in this case
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Sir_Marvulous said:
while using Domain Expansion
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DE has no scaling chain for Red or any amps you are just making things up.
Not to mention that Red literally blow Sukuna away with his half face burned & destroyed some parts of his domain shrine. So what you claiming doesn't work.
 
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JnSteHar002 said:
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He'll still have greater ce manipulation, be a better fighter, and also have anti domain techs so likely Yuta. We already see Gojo can handle two or more opponents at a time, Yuta's gonna struggle to keep up and also ever land any fatal attacks.
 
just noticed
why is gojo comparable to sukuna in physical stats. he got sukuna on the defensive whilst he had ct burnout nerf, (which nerfs your ce control) no blue, constantly being wounded by Sukuna DE nonstop, fully outputting rct whilst using CE reinforcement, meaning he's doing full out two things, was able to pressure Sukuna more whilst he was focusing using ce and rct carefully on his brain to restore it (after destroying part of it) whilst being wounded with no healing on.

remove all the nerfs he got whilst in domain, and remove Sukuna being domain amped, and you'd have him stomping Sukuna physically. we already see this happen with him piercing through Sukuna's chest with just one hand, where both are with a DE amp, or him causing a exact similar wound in a previous domain battle, meaning Gojo can do that much damage with one hit. in short gojo is physically far superior, they're not comparable in strength. Gojo already in the first domain battle after getting his ct back, whilst wounded with no rct on yet, was able to outspeed easily (almost a blitz) Sukuna who, despite being able to feel the ignition of red, was too slow to react to Gojo leaning back, and pulling up a red after pointing at Sukuna. he barely got his arms up, let alone to struggle out of gojo having his legs wrapped around him (sus)

tldr they're not in the same ballpark. they're not comparable under normal conditions.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
just noticed
why is gojo comparable to sukuna in physical stats. he got sukuna on the defensive whilst he had ct burnout nerf, (which nerfs your ce control) no blue, constantly being wounded by Sukuna DE nonstop, fully outputting rct whilst using CE reinforcement, meaning he's doing full out two things, was able to pressure Sukuna more whilst he was focusing using ce and rct carefully on his brain to restore it (after destroying part of it) whilst being wounded with no healing on.

remove all the nerfs he got whilst in domain, and remove Sukuna being domain amped, and you'd have him stomping Sukuna physically. we already see this happen with him piercing through Sukuna's chest with just one hand, where both are with a DE amp, or him causing a exact similar wound in a previous domain battle, meaning Gojo can do that much damage with one hit. in short gojo is physically far superior, they're not comparable in strength. Gojo already in the first domain battle after getting his ct back, whilst wounded with no rct on yet, was able to outspeed easily (almost a blitz) Sukuna who, despite being able to feel the ignition of red, was too slow to react to Gojo leaning back, and pulling up a red after pointing at Sukuna. he barely got his arms up, let alone to struggle out of gojo having his legs wrapped around him (sus)

tldr they're not in the same ballpark. they're not comparable under normal conditions.
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
find it funny as to how you think I said so.
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
remove all the nerfs he got whilst in domain, and remove Sukuna being domain amped,
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Whatever Bruh.

When narrative clearly shows Meguna and Sukuna being EQ in chapter 224 and 225 and Gojo needing Blue to stop Sukuna moment and still Sukuna dodges multiple hits without his Domain Expansion amp. It's just you ignoring the Context of after chapter 226 Sukuna switched to Adaptation and he wasn't bothered to fight Gojo in H2H mode. He needed to maintain 2 things DA & Mahoraga adaptation swapping back and forth. Not to mention he still tanked Multiple hits from Gojo even inside Domain. Gojo harmed Sukuna with Red and Blue. Not that any way around with physical powers. Well I doubt your glazing would stop on Gojo so agree to disagree if you still have problems with the fact Sukuna scaling to Gojos physicals.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
1. Idk how you think this is throwing away the series. It isnt. It has also been planned for a long time now going by foreshadowing.

2. Huh? Because they thought he was dead. And Yuji isn't Shoko's closest friend. also u can still use binding vow to possibly sacrifice something in return for the revival of somebody.

3. doesn't apply to gojo's level of ce efficiency and control. but idc about this
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Okay, this topic is obviously going to get longer.
Let's look at the scene where Gojo dies first. Gojo died with cuts all over and he died in a mess. This death did not suit Gojo at all. because no feeling of sadness was given. But when we look at the chapter where he died, Gojo talks to his other deceased friends, this gives us emotional emphasis. This was also the case with the deaths of other characters. In Nanami, emotional emphasis was made in the same way, and in Toji, it was the same way. This death is good enough for Gojo. If you still think that Gojo will somehow resurrect and throw himself into silence, give up your childish dreams. They don't waste the 1000 year old most powerful magician
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Whatever Bruh.

When narrative clearly shows Meguna and Sukuna being EQ in chapter 224 and 225 and Gojo needing Blue to stop Sukuna moment and still Sukuna dodges multiple hits without his Domain Expansion amp. It's just you ignoring the Context of after chapter 226 Sukuna switched to Adaptation and he wasn't bothered to fight Gojo in H2H mode. He needed to maintain 2 things DA & Mahoraga adaptation swapping back and forth. Not to mention he still tanked Multiple hits from Gojo even inside Domain. Gojo harmed Sukuna with Red and Blue. Not that any way around with physical powers. Well I doubt your glazing would stop on Gojo so agree to disagree if you still have problems with the fact Sukuna scaling to Gojos physicals.
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Equal in what? 😂 You can be equal and then still be better than the other in other aspects. Matter of a fact. Gojo has landed more hits on Sukuna h2h, performs better than Sukuna. This must go against the narrative right? Lmao. infact lemme show u

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them being equal doesn't have to mean that they're equal in what u think. Infact are u aware that sukuna without the 10S would be long ago smoked? Gojo wouldn't have to hold back in any of his arsenal anymore in being wary of whatever Sukuna is doing or planning. (Maho is a potential threat) and he'd just spam red and blue as much as he can and then Sukuna is cooked. the domain battles would be over and sukuna dies in like 3rd domain battle or 2nd. he would no longer have Megumi as meat shield to take the burden for adaption (imagine if he didn't have Megumi as a body shield. he'd be literally dead. can't use him to adapt) or to have gojo being extremely cautious from the CT Merchant.

do u know what actually makes Sukuna equal to Gojo. It's the fact that he's jujutsu wise in the same tier as Gojo. Has an extra ct with the potential to adapt to Gojo's arsenal and moves, has essentially two arsenal. Has open domain, which gives him extra range and possibly better potency than a regular DE technique that is not open domain. He's comparable to Gojo in h2h etc. Him being physically way below Gojo in stats doesn't mean they aren't equal. it's just a YOU issue in that you take the wording too literal when u can't. Essentially you're also arguing that we should ignore the manga feats too.

also what? he never swapped. He maintained the two. That's not swapping. you've got it confused.


EldemadeDityjon said:
Gojo needing Blue to stop Sukuna moment and still Sukuna dodges multiple hits without his Domain Expansion amp
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do u mean where they both were testing and playing with each other before they actually got serious. 😂 also him stopping Sukuna moment? you're twisting things to make it seem like he was struggling. he dropped down and pointed at sukuna and then got him sent flying. that's all.


EldemadeDityjon said:
It's just you ignoring the Context of after chapter 226 Sukuna switched to Adaptation and he wasn't bothered to fight Gojo in H2H mode.
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??? He's VERY well trying to fight in h2h. now you're making up fanfiction. it's as if this manga wasn't centered around fighting and close quarter combat whatsoever. And it's as if Sukuna wasn't trying to stop gojo from ******** him over in h2h to not get so messed up. he's trying in the domain battle dude, otherwise it would break down faster and he'd get UV treatment more earlier.


EldemadeDityjon said:
Whatever Bruh.
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like I said, you're just making up fanfiction. i never said infinite amp. if u think it gives insignificant increase for some reason then you should re read the manga and understand what peak jujutsu is about rather than trying to downplay domain amp. but again where do I say infinite amp. I'll wait for u to prove it. if you can't then admit you read wrong.


EldemadeDityjon said:
Not to mention he still tanked Multiple hits from Gojo even inside Domain.
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so you're saying you got no explanation as to how he pierced through his chest, which is a similar wound he had made prior to that when they started the small ping pong ball domain battle, implying he did it in h2h. you're basically arguing that gege just contradicted himself in this fight. ok bro. ill give you a better explanation: Gojo doesn't always use blue. there may be cases where they look "relative" but gojo ends up winning. and then there are cases where Gojo straight up overpowers or seemingly blitzes sukuna which seems like blue is used. or there's another explanation for it.

Gojo cares about Megumi and may thus held back some of his lethality on certain moments. YES he has said "I won't hold back" but notice the prior context: Gojo says he did a special training in this month of preparation in order to make himself capable of not holding back on Sukuna even if Megumi who is practically almost his son more or less, is the one he's fighting against. This is what Gojo has said in regards to not holding back or trying to kill. even then he gets quite pissed when he realizes what happened to megumi with the UV hit. Gojo alr has a very tight and close relationship with his students and has a quite soft heart for em.
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^ This is what they also say, which they didn't say before when he said the same thing, which may indicate the first one where he says he'll kill Sukuna in ch225 wasn't true and he cares about Megumi. The second time he says it is when they seem to take notice and care. tho this is all after both got brain damage and things are starting to continue getting more heated in the fight, which brings me to this second point:
Gojo can be superficial in his personality when it comes to other people. He may say this, but think otherwise. Lemme show you.

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both times he thinks differently. so this further supports the argument that he may say he won't hold back to kill, but isn't being truthful about it and thinks otherwise.
Infact, it would also explain as to why, the guy who says he'll kill you in a life and death battle, doesn't go for your head, or your gut or any other more vital area like the throat or eyes.
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Went for the chest instead.


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Says he'll do that. which isn't killing him. Which doesn't really fit in with this "I'll kill you (basically having you dead)" when you say you'll only get someone close to death.

In conclusion, Gojo holds back in his lethality. Choose between these two instead of trying to basically argue "well i got no explanation for that but look this shows otherwise! meaning contradiction!" which is insane.


EldemadeDityjon said:
Well I doubt your glazing would stop on Gojo
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if you got an argument, don't put in "well your argument is just glazing" etc. logical arguments don't fit in with comments that only aim to put a argument bad in perspective.

Edit: On a second thought. When the students take notice of Gojo saying he'll kill Sukuna twice, it seems like they did not comment on the first because he didn't mean it, whereas in the second where things get far more desperate and dangerous, etc, they notice that gojo is more genuine. Which also makes sense because we see him putting far more effort than he did previously. So there's that.
 
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
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Youre prob in the cell phone, but if you get the chance, please, decrease the size of the images

Anyway. About Gojo profile
At least Large Town level+ (Fought on par with and withstood numerous hits from True Power Sukuna); At least Small City level while using Domain Expansion (Gojo can exchange strikes with Sukuna while both are amped by Domain Expansion[45]); Higher with Cursed Energy Reinforcement (Comparable to Sukuna, who reinforced his body with Cursed Energy to survive Purple fired from four kilometers away at the cost of two arms[46])
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"Higher with Cursed Energy Reinforcement" doesnt make sense at all. Sukuna could tank it only because Purple lost energy while traveling ~4Km to hit him. Beside, the High 7-C rating its already based on Cursed Energy Reinforcement
 
Blackdragonq1 said:
Okay, this topic is obviously going to get longer.
Let's look at the scene where Gojo dies first. Gojo died with cuts all over and he died in a mess. This death did not suit Gojo at all. because no feeling of sadness was given. But when we look at the chapter where he died, Gojo talks to his other deceased friends, this gives us emotional emphasis. This was also the case with the deaths of other characters. In Nanami, emotional emphasis was made in the same way, and in Toji, it was the same way. This death is good enough for Gojo. If you still think that Gojo will somehow resurrect and throw himself into silence, give up your childish dreams. They don't waste the 1000 year old most powerful magician
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It isn't good enough for gojo because you're blatantly ignoring his actual wishes and dreams, which many here has also been ignoring. His students are his dream. Removing corruption is also his dream. Both are in which he wants to see. He also wants to see them grow past him. He cares about the youth of his students. Them getting killed is a literal spit in his face. They're his legacy after all. If you didn't know this then I suggest you re read the manga. The JJK Novel also has some emphasis on this, like when we see gojo and nanami having a discussion. You're also blatantly ignoring the obvious foreshadowing Nanami pointed out so kindly, which is, you guessed it right, north and south, the direction gojo geto faces is north. the direction Nanami and Haibara faces is south. The airport they're in has directions for north and south too, but let's put that aside and focus on the obvious Buddhist implications Nanami so kindly pointed out, along with the 7 lotus flowers. Buddha took steps to the north as well. Gojo is the Buddha of the jjk. yada yada.

the overall point is that there are many foreshadowings put forth in that very same airport scene, which is basically Buddhist references, which JJK runs deep into. But going back to your emotional emphasis. You're comparing the two other characters you mentioned to Gojo, who still has not reached his true enlightenment that is foreshadowed blatantly. If you think his students dying and him watching it is ok, then you'd basically be going against what his character is about. this isn't HI Gojo. this is adult gojo who is a teacher and has a dream revolving around ridding off corruption and allowing the future generation, precisely his students, to have their youth protected, to flourish etc.
 
If youre on computer, you just need to click in the image

If you are on cell phone, idk how to do it. I normally only use links when not using the computer tho
 
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