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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Btw Naoya said no body could understand Toji except for maybe Satoru, would that imply that Toji was above Naobito
Gege in the fanbook was asked about why Naobito became the Head of the clan, he said because he's strong, but if strength was the only reason, Toji would've become the head
 
YukaSama4 said:
Btw Naoya said no body could understand Toji except for maybe Satoru, would that imply that Toji was above Naobito
Gege in the fanbook was asked about why Naobito became the Head of the clan, he said because he's strong, but if strength was the only reason, Toji would've become the head
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Im guessing they didnt want someone with no CE to be head, even if he is technically stronger
 
YukaSama4 said:
All the zenin would've jumped Gojo and he would've destroyed them in 1 panel, Maki handled the job and look where we at rn because of her useless HR
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She got a speed boost and was still getting knocked around and outsped by Transonic to Supersonic Naoya 😭

YukaSama4 said:
Fun fact, the zenin clan was trying to kill Megumi and others under the reason of "they are trying to unseal Gojo"
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How did the Zenins even know that Maki's group were going to try to unseal Gojo, it was also pretty dumb of Tengen not inform the higher-ups or big 3 clans about anything on Kenjaku, did Maki even get any cursed tools in the end from that trip?
(I guess you could theorise that Tengen deduced the Zenin's plot and wanted Maki to complete her Heavenly Restriction to become a Toji level fighter or something)
 
LaserPrecision said:
I dunno if the feat was addressed, but the PE of Uraume's giant ass ice glacier hundreds of meters in the air would yield good results. Given the fact it was massive and was significantly higher up than Kashimo who was 200+ meters up in the air.
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That's a cold Building level feat
 
LaserPrecision said:
I dunno if the feat was addressed, but the PE of Uraume's giant ass ice glacier hundreds of meters in the air would yield good results. Given the fact it was massive and was significantly higher up than Kashimo who was 200+ meters up in the air.
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There's also a feat of Kashimo doing a massive explosion under water, but unfortunately those game be city block AP
 
SunDaGamer said:
That's a cold Building level feat
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I think it'd be a lot higher tbh. I calc'd a comparable body of water being dropped from a smaller distance and got Tier 7 results. I also think it's worth calcing the energy required for it to change states from solid to liquid so quickly. That'd likewise be a good feat methinks.
MusicRelaxing said:
There's also a feat of Kashimo doing a massive explosion under water, but unfortunately those game be city block AP
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When'd he do that? Can you link the calc to me?
 
LaserPrecision said:
I dunno if the feat was addressed, but the PE of Uraume's giant ass ice glacier hundreds of meters in the air would yield good results. Given the fact it was massive and was significantly higher up than Kashimo who was 200+ meters up in the air.
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Can you try to calculate that?
 
LaserPrecision said:
Mind sending me the feat in question? I wanna take a look at it since underwater explosions > air explosions.
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Glurb blurb..~~ I mean chapter 189 there you go
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Can you try to calculate that?
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I could but... getting the size of the ice structure itself is ironically the hard part. If I can get that, it'll be easy.
YukaSama4 said:
Glurb blurb..~~ I mean chapter 189 there you go
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Could be decent. The hard part is trying to find the depth at which they're swimming at.
 
You remember when hakari jumped on that shipping container and crushed it, the force of that can be used for lifting strength also them throwing around them too
 
LaserPrecision said:
I could but... getting the size of the ice structure itself is ironically the hard part. If I can get that, it'll be easy.

Could be decent. The hard part is trying to find the depth at which they're swimming at.
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Is there anything in physics like an average speed of a body falling in a sea? For example if something is falling freely in the air it accelerates by 10m/s^2, if there's not something like this here then maybe you should start your experiments to figure it out
I'm saying that because Hakari almost lost his consciousness and started to fall inside the sea, so maybe if we can find the speed you can use different time for multiple ends
Like
Low end: 3s
High end: 10s
 
Spinoirr said:
You remember when hakari jumped on that shipping container and crushed it, the force of that can be used for lifting strength also them throwing around them too
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I don't know the feat, no. I'm not caught up. I read the manga as physical releases drop so I can purchase them. Currently in the fight between Yuta and the roach Cursed Spirit.
 
YukaSama4 said:
Is there anything in physics like an average speed of a body falling in a sea? For example if something is falling freely in the air it accelerates by 10m/s^2, if there's not something like this here then maybe you should start your experiments to figure it out
I'm saying that because Hakari almost lost his consciousness and started to fall inside the sea, so maybe if we can find the speed you can use different time for multiple ends
Like
Low end: 3s
High end: 10s
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The issue is that humans float in water. They have to physically swim down. They don't sink because they're less dense than the water.
 
LaserPrecision said:
He did acknowledge it in the Fushiguro vs Reggie fight funny enough. Reggie started sinking in Fushiguro's shadow as he would through air since the shadow has zero buoyancy.
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So Hakari just lost by an asspull because Gege wanted to make Lashimo look cool

Edit: he didnt really lose, he won but lost his hand, he would've won easier if electrolysis didn't bring him down deep in the sea
 
YukaSama4 said:
Then how tf did Gege miss this when he was acting smart and talking about electrolysis
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I've come to take it as Gege being a great mangaka who'll add what he wants if it can make the story interesting; Gege's admitted to not being a big science/math guy when talking about black flash
 
YukaSama4 said:
So Hakari just lost by an asspull because Gege wanted to make Lashimo look cool

Edit: he didnt really lose, he won but lost his hand, he would've won easier if electrolysis didn't bring him down deep in the sea
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Alright, after skimming the chapter and doing a little research:

1. A drowning person actually can sink in water due to the air in their body as air leaves their body and water fills their lungs (Similar to how a plastic bottle will float, but if you open the cap and let water flow in, it will eventually sink). So I'll see what I can find about that since Hakari clearly was sinking there.
2. Kashimo's Cursed Energy was heating up a decent amount of water. He created an explosion of steam from thermal energy alone. So I guess I'll have to test out a couple methods.
 
Heck, maybe KE might possible because it's stated that the outflow of his energy was so great that it converted into thermal energy faster than the electricity could propagate through the water resulting in that explosion.
 
Alright, I want a collaborative opinion. I found an easy way out to get the depth, which is using the luminosity of the depth at which they are. Kashimo appears to be in dimly lit water, with the water beneath him being pitch black:
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Sources say that light in water becomes dim anywhere between 200-1000 meters in water. With water anywhere beneath 1000 meters not receiving any light at all. My guess is based on the water Kashimo is in being dimly lit, and the water beneath him being pitch-black, he's in the "twilight zone", aka the disphotic zone.
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So anywhere between 200-1000 meters underwater. I want an opinion on if I should just use 200 meters, 1000 meters, or a median of 350 meters for the depth of Kashimo? I feel using the median or even the lowest depth is feasible given the pitch-black zone seemed to be right beneath him, however, it only reaches 1000 meters under specific circumstances. Or should I just use 3 ends and see what CGM accept?
 
LaserPrecision said:
The issue is that humans float in water. They have to physically swim down. They don't sink because they're less dense than the water.
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Absolutely not true

Only pretty fat humans can float without any aid of breath

If your in decent shape the weight of your muscle mass will overcome the air that's in your body

Legit go walk into the water right now and test it (Though VSBW users probably have enough fat to float the majority of the time)
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
Absolutely not true

Only pretty fat humans can float without any aid of breath

If your in decent shape the weight of your muscle mass will overcome the air that's in your body

Legit go walk into the water right now and test it (Though VSBW users probably have enough fat to float the majority of the time)
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I'll take your word for it.

What do you think about my comment above yours?
 
LaserPrecision said:
I'll take your word for it.

What do you think about my comment above yours?
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Ehhh it could just be manga shading to show depth but I guess it could also represent that depth

Me personally I would use that depth as a high end since this takes place at a boat dock near the shore

Also we see from Kashimos POV of Hakari floating downward that the surface is not that far up
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The bottom panel is Kashimo looking up not down
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
Ehhh it could just be manga shading to show depth but I guess it could also represent that depth

Me personally I would use that depth as a high end since this takes place at a boat dock near the shore

Also we see from Kashimos POV of Hakari floating downward that the surface is not that far up
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The bottom panel is Kashimo looking up not down
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Shading to show depth... I mean, yeah. But I don't think a Mangaka is going to add super dark shading unless the depth is... well... really deep. If it were shallow, it seems weird to do so.

What end? I suggested 3.

We can't see the surface from Kashimo's PoV here though. Just him watching Hakari sink. I don't really see an indication that the surface is right above him.

I'd be fine with ignoring the 1000 meter end since that's circumstantial, but I do feel the 200 or 350 meter proposition seems fair given how dark the depth is directly below Kashimo (We can see in the shot where the two are face to face that Kashimo is on the boarder of the light transition from visible to invisible).
 
LaserPrecision said:
Alright, I want a collaborative opinion. I found an easy way out to get the depth, which is using the luminosity of the depth at which they are. Kashimo appears to be in dimly lit water, with the water beneath him being pitch black:
12.jpg
13.jpg
14.jpg

Sources say that light in water becomes dim anywhere between 200-1000 meters in water. With water anywhere beneath 1000 meters not receiving any light at all. My guess is based on the water Kashimo is in being dimly lit, and the water beneath him being pitch-black, he's in the "twilight zone", aka the disphotic zone.
lightinocean2.jpg

So anywhere between 200-1000 meters underwater. I want an opinion on if I should just use 200 meters, 1000 meters, or a median of 350 meters for the depth of Kashimo? I feel using the median or even the lowest depth is feasible given the pitch-black zone seemed to be right beneath him, however, it only reaches 1000 meters under specific circumstances. Or should I just use 3 ends and see what CGM accept?
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Too late to make a blog for me atm, so someone else can use my math (Just credit me ig).

Low-End will be the 200 meter figure, 350 will be the high-end figure. I'll use two methods. Underwater Explosion formula, and vaporization of water formula.

 
LaserPrecision said:
Too late to make a blog for me atm, so someone else can use my math (Just credit me ig).

Low-End will be the 200 meter figure, 350 will be the high-end figure. I'll use two methods. Underwater Explosion formula, and vaporization of water formula.

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Either way a upgrade
 
LaserPrecision said:
Too late to make a blog for me atm, so someone else can use my math (Just credit me ig).

Low-End will be the 200 meter figure, 350 will be the high-end figure. I'll use two methods. Underwater Explosion formula, and vaporization of water formula.

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Bruh any update for Kenjaku Black hole speed feat?
 
I am gonna Split Gojos Profile into Pre Prison Realm and Post Prison Realm based on Current Speed upgrade thread. Atleast we got into some neutral ground. So I request everyone to don't start some shit like Gojo was same throughout the series. We don't want another 6 pages of back and forth debate like how Maki case happened. Don't want to mess up everything until now.
Too much greedy is not a good thing.
 
Quick calc for Uruame too

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  • Going to assume the ice crystal is 203 meters in the air since I couldn't find a way to px scale its height since Kashimo isn't visible in the shot
  • 203/134 = 1.51492537313 m/px
  • 1.51492537313*65 = 98.4701492535 meters
  • 1.51492537313*58 = 87.8656716415 meters
  • I used the google ellipsoid calculator... I wasn't sure if the axis I need to fill out are for the radius or diameter, so I worked under the assumption it means radius.
  • 7.96107×10^5 m^3/2 = 398053.5 m^3 | 3.980535e+11 cm^3
  • 398053.5*916.8 = 364,935,448.8 kg
  • PE = 364935448.8*9.81*203 = 726743400804 Joules | 173.695 Tons (Multi-City Block level)
This is obviously a lowball considering it towered over Kashimo who was 203 meters up. I'm not good with melting feats, but I imagine Sukuna melting it would yield better results (I imagine either Low 7-C or 8-A+ range). So for anyone good at that, give it a shot.
 
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