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I didn't even know of the crt coming up so yea I was just out the loop @Rocker1189
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Whoever found this logic, good job
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It was honestly thinking back on it a way to just end the Crt that could satisfy both parties half way
So that we wouldn’t have Mountain level Nanami (Thank god) nor would we have Domains being ignored completely
Overall the Crt was a mess
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It was amazing how unlucky that thread was. Every time the discussion was going to be finished a new person showed up to disagree
It's so ridiculous it's funny
It's so ridiculous it's funny
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Wait this is a joke right? (I find I am saying this a lot recently).
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Is that really an unreasonable way to look at the god tiers?
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Yes? Being a God tier doesnt mean you can just scale illogically. Typically God tiers would scale above the best actual attack of a person or would have a feat themselves to scale to. At least scaling to the meteor makes far more sense than scaling to the domains.
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How is it illogical for Gojo to scale above Jogos domain?
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If I remember last revision right the justifications for scaling to domains for Yuta and Gojo was that thx to the Six Eyes Gojo’s cursed energy supply was nigh impossible to finish and he could spam domain expansions without being tired by such
We chose not to scale the beings creating domains to them because its once a day and fries a ton of cursed energy so assuming it could be used for generic punches was outrageous
With Jogo not even being stated to have “Boundless” cursed energy at all
So we just said screw it
And said its fine for Gojo and Yuta to scale off of Domains due to cursed energy supply because then everyone would just stop going back and forth.
I guess that’s also a super abridged version for Rocker as well for further context when the thread is made.
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The logic of "There is an energy system, so it scales above the one that has the least energy, even if the energy doesn't scale to the weaker character's normal attack potency" is used in 99% of verses with power system(And even those who don't have a system). Not accepting this is a bit hypocritical with the site's rules
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Jogo can quantify his own Domain.
Jogo can not quantify Gojo's casual power.
They have a universal energy system.
Gojo's casual power > Jogo's domain.
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Domains do not need quantifying as they are not AP based. Terrible assumption. This is of course if said domain is actually the size of a mountain regardless something else that needs proving.
Nowhere is it said that Jogo can not quantify Gojo's power. Correct me if I am wrong.
Power should never scale to domain as domain is not AP based yet again.
Also the irony of you saying and agreeing with this sort of scaling logic is hilarious.
Firstly I am not talking about the logic of being more powerful than anyone else in your verse. I am talking about the logic of scaling above the creation of something that clearly is not in anyway shape or form an attack. Secondly what 99% of verses scale to pocket dimensions? Only a few do and even so they have far better reasoning and evidence for doing so like the destruction of said dimensions. Thirdly, that example is not nearly the same thing based on the calc it is based on a character moving all the oceans of the earth of course that makes far more sense to scale to that person's AP and then people far stronger would be stronger than that. Also the explanation on the page is far better than what you are saying is fine.
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Unfortunately a bunch verses just scale off of
The stars in the background and say they are probably real to make them 4-A (Although usually for that limited amount of evidence to get accepted the characters will be tier 5-4 to begin with)
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You say unfortunately meaning you disagree or think it is wrong. In which case two wrongs don't make a right. I don't agree with that and neither do I agree with it here.
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He isnt manipulating causality he is manipulating space by essentially constantly having the distance moved by the opponent reduce by half. That is what his explanation on limitless seems to be anyway.
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Environmental Destruction
Environmental Destruction describes a character's capability to damage and destroy an area around themselves, but not necessarily their capacity to realistically harm their opponent. In practice, this is essentially a non-combat applicable Attack Potency; if a character is able to cause weather...
vsbattles.fandom.com
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Very cool what has that got to do with anything. Domains arent even environmental destruction as they dont affect they environment. They create a space in which people get buffs and can do other shit.Environmental Destruction
Environmental Destruction describes a character's capability to damage and destroy an area around themselves, but not necessarily their capacity to realistically harm their opponent. In practice, this is essentially a non-combat applicable Attack Potency; if a character is able to cause weather...
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And this space has mass and several other things which generates an energy result to create.
This is called "Pocket Dimension"
This is called "Pocket Dimension"
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And it is also not something that is used as any sort of attack as well as has a limited space regardless of its visuals and names. I know what a pocket dimension is. And I wholely disagree with your use of it in scaling in JJK.
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That is why it is environmental destriction
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....know what whatever, regardless it has no reasoning to scale to god tiers as the environmental destruction as the size of people's domains are independent of their actual power.
I mean limited as compared to what the visuals make it look like. As I am sure you understood.
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Domain Expansion are made with cursed energy, people are not able to attack with thepotency of a Expansion because they don't have enough energy. If a character has cursed energy considered unlimited compared to characters with limited cursed energy, they naturally scale above considering the physiology of "Elite Sorcerer". This is how it works with every verse with energy system
I know, it was just a joke. I won't argue until Saturday. This is just a conversation
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They would naturally scale above the strength of the other person's domain expansion with their own domain expansion overpowering the last person's. Physicallt they would typically scales above them too however that still does not scale from the domain expansion itself. And no this is not how it works with every verse with an energy system or else Naruto scaling would not be as annoying to do as it is right now. And Naruto is not the only verse.
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Elite sorcerers have unlimited cursed energy and a domain expansion has X cursed energy
"Unlimited energy" > X
Since an elite sorcerer is able to make all energy flow simultaneously in all parts of the body, they scales above. It's a simple reasoning. And no, this is actually used in any verse with a power system
"Unlimited energy" > X
Since an elite sorcerer is able to make all energy flow simultaneously in all parts of the body, they scales above. It's a simple reasoning. And no, this is actually used in any verse with a power system
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Well most verses
Naruto for example with the relation between energy quantity and strength there being weird as hell
But I won’t get into specifics for that for obvious reasons
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Only Gojo has "unlimited" cursed energy due to cycling cursed energy back into his body after use something only he can do due to the six eyes.
Again this is not how it works. There is no proof that having more cursed energy means that you have more AP than what creates a domain. In fact it is the opposite. Having the energy to create a domain in the first place allows you to create one to give you a buff in general.
No it is not a simple reasoning. Sorry but it is a dumbed down reasoning to scale people far above what they have actually shown. Again if this was the case then sizes of each person's domain would match up with their strength which is obviously not true.
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Man
Sometimes I think I read a different manga than some people in this thread
Anyway, I'm leaving now
Anyway, I'm leaving now
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That is definitely how I feel when I read the profiles :/
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Yeah, Mahito 8-B really is something that anyone who reads the manga considers ridiculous
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I find that hard to believe. What are Mahito's best feats again?
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Him creating “seemingly” a magnitude 4-5 Tremmor in Shibuya when he attacked Yuji and Todo
Basically 8-B to almost 8-A+
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And scale to small town and mult cuty block feats from Hanami and Jogo
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Oh by the way, no shaman has infinite cursed energy, they can always run out which was proven by yuta's statement here.
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We know it’s unlimited with a huge asterisk
It’s just immeasurably larger by comparison to everyone else to the point that for them it seems limitless
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He will probably be small town level off Hanami’s tree feat
But I mean if there is Multi City block Mahito I guess I’d have a cool match up for him (
