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To be specific Curses who are natural born Instead of vengeance like Naoya & Rika.Soul Katana cutting curses
Nothing here even remotely states anything about power output differences, the whole explanation is centered around application and precision. Hell, even the whole explanation of "electricity" to "electrical appliances" let’s take all three of the example appliances in the panel, a microwave, a hair drier and a vacuum cleaner would you say any one of them has a superior power output to the electricity poured into them to make them work? you could have a point with a microwave but it is more related to the actual application of microwaves themselves as it is radiation and less pure power like an electrical voltage. Unless a CT is outright stated to be able to push out more power and have higher output than regular CE use the difference in a CT would be its application, say ratio which creates weak spots allowing for 120% the damage output of regular CE strikesIt is obviously stated and Shown CT has more AP than CE output. check the can what happened to CE blast and CT usage.
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eh we don't know if dismantle does have a varying output all we know about it is thisNo his default Slash is dismantle. Also CT output can vary. It doesn't need to Sukuna to be going all out on first instance. Even if you say it was cleave it has a max limit otherwise Gojo would have sliced to pieces if it was just hax
Agree to disagree with this then. I don't see any reason for Sukuna using Cleave here when default dismantle already does the damage.
Also read the above argument. Cleave also has a limit.
not stated to be the same, they are stated to be the same in power, but more than likely different in applicationYes but we already have Max Uzumaki, Rika who can fire CE blasts like RyuHis CT and Non CT blasts are same ofcourse because other Sorcerers don't use CE blasts. Except Max Uzumaki and Rika
Ngl I hate that bitch. If It wasnt for the statement about her/him being more durable I could easly put Jogoat above Kenjaku in raw CEWhat character do yall think is seriously underrated in terms of powerscaling?
For me its definitely Hanami. She gets overshadowed hard by Jogo and Mahito but she is also a monster. Obviously she is really durable (above both Jogo and Curse Naoya) but she also has ludicrous endurance, being able to take five black flashes from a guy who's normal punches where already enough to hurt her. Her cursed technique has the AP to seriously damage herself and she has access to techniques like the flower field that stuns people, buds that drain CE, domain expansion and domain amplification (along with only like 3 other people in the verse)
Yes but we already have Max Uzumaki, Rika who can fire CE blasts like Ryu. Compared to them Ryus output in CE is greater. But Narrator or Character never stated anything about it also applies to CT Output.
The highest in history would include Sukuna tooNowhere stated or implied Ryu output is close to Sukuna overall.
Depends on the CT and if it is outright stated that it has higher outputTo put it simply.
CE output Blasts ≠ CT output
considering that both yuta and Ryu where able to stop those blasts with their bare hands and where outputing similar levels of damage to one another through CQCStriking Power imbued with CE ≠ CE blasts output
Again dependant on the CT and if its outright stated that the CT has higher outputCT AP ≠ CE output .
Ryu was never hit directly by her blasts and was able to push out more damage with one of his punches to Rika than his blasts did which would also apply to the CT output being similar to CE output again only different application and precisionRyu blasts were stringer than Rikas blasts but Rika physicals were stronger than that CE blast. Additionally let's not forget Ryu and Rika striking Power does more damage on them than his CE blasts.
I disagreeSo I obviously Disagree with Ryu greatest output of CE blasts is taken out of context to scale others to him.
It doesn't matter. Gojos CE blasts < His CT.Nothing here even remotely states anything about power output differences, the whole explanation is centered around application and precision. Hell, even the whole explanation of "electricity" to "electrical appliances" let’s take all three of the example appliances in the panel, a microwave, a hair drier and a vacuum cleaner would you say any one of them has a superior power output to the electricity poured into them to make them work? you could have a point with a microwave but it is more related to the actual application of microwaves themselves as it is radiation and less pure power like an electrical voltage. Unless a CT is outright stated to be able to push out more power and have higher output than regular CE use the difference in a CT would be its application, say ratio which creates weak spots allowing for 120% the damage output of regular CE strikes
Megumi reducing CT Output of Dismantle Cough cougheh we don't know if dismantle does have a varying output all we know about it is this
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dismantle is a default attack it doesn't seem to have different levels of output, while cleave is outright stated to be the one used to cut down the enemy in one fell swoop something that happens to Ryu.
Why are you repeating what I said?not stated to be the same, they are stated to be the same in power, but more than likely different in applicationYes but we already have Max Uzumaki, Rika who can fire CE blasts like Ryu
Funny thing in that same I heard bullshit Kenjaku says Sukuna was the strongest and it's undisputable.The highest in history would include Sukuna too
No author spoon feeds everything. If CE blast is more better than CT output character would spam that like Rika & max Uzumaki. Not all characters are like that So AP differsDepends on the CT and if it is outright stated that it has higher output
This just proves my point.considering that both yuta and Ryu where able to stop those blasts with their bare hands and where outputing similar levels of damage to one another through CQC
Yeah depends on CT doesn't mean every character uses Cursed Energy blast.Again dependant on the CT and if its outright stated that the CT has higher output
Ryu hit with his own blast which was stronger than Rikas Blast Narrative statement. Idk where I mentioned Ryu got hit with Rikas Blast?Ryu was never hit directly by her blasts and was able to push out more damage with one of his punches to Rika than his blasts did which would also apply to the CT output being similar to CE output again only different application and precision
not the argumentRyu > 20F Sukuna ~ Gojo fr
Highest CE output = AP rightnot the argument
Your own wordsThe highest in history would include Sukuna too
Yeah cuse gojos CT is pure hax, push and pull and outright matter/void manipulation of course it will have different effects.It doesn't matter. Gojos CE blasts < His CT.
yeah CTs are all about application and manipulation, most of the time their power is lesser than CE output funnily enoughThere are different types of CT so it depends nonetheless not all characters fires CE blast.
Yuta and rika were able to contend with his CT and CE output due to their unnaturally high CE reserves hell even Ryu points it out for us.Narrator clearly mentioned CE blasts output Ryu has highest output not for anything else. Characters with good Reinforcement and striking Power like Rika can literally content with Ryus output.
he was reducing everything not just CT output but output as a whole as well as movementMegumi reducing CT Output of Dismantle Cough cough
sukuna not having the highest output ever doesn't mean he isn't the strongest.Funny thing in that same I heard bullshit Kenjaku says Sukuna was the strongest and it's undisputable.
CT's are not purely AP its about their usefullness and overall effectiveness in combat, Hell would you say that Naobito would just flat out stop using projection sorcery if he could use something akin to a CE blast (which btw not every character can use in the first place)? no and even if he could use both he'd still stick to projection sorcery since not everyone has infinite CE pools.No author spoon feeds everything. If CE blast is more better than CT output character would spam that like Rika & max Uzumaki. Not all characters are like that So AP differs
no it means they are in the same ball park my man, if a character can hit you with a blast of energy that rips you up and then proceeds to use that same energy to impower themselves to dish out similar if not greater levels of damage that means that the two abilities are quite comperable.This just proves my point.
CE blast output has nothing to do with CE output.
considering that CE blasts are entirely reliant on CE in the first place, ya know that same CE used to impower and provide higher striking power output it would scale to almost everyone.Yeah depends on CT doesn't mean every character uses Cursed Energy blast.
Uraume CT is not based on Cursed Energy blast like Rika and Uzumaki. You can only argue for Ryus Output being higher based on Characters with CE blast not for everyone who has CT.
"Ryu blasts were stringer than Rikas blasts but Rika physicals were stronger than that CE blast." the thing isn't that you said he was hit it was that you where compering said things my good man.Ryu hit with his own blast which was stronger than Rikas Blast Narrative statement. Idk where I mentioned Ryu got hit with Rikas Blast?
yeah AP wiseHighest CE output = AP right
20F Sukuna ~ Gojo
So Ryus AP Should scale to them
Make a thread I'm done arguing. i already repeated the same multiple times arguments are repeating. I don't want to go in circles. Let's see how many would agree with Ryu AP > Sukuna & Gojoyeah AP wise
not durability wise
not speed wise
not hax wise
not endurance wise
His whole shtick is big AP go boom, his other stats on the other hand are shit in comperison to gojo and sukuna who both have a similar if lower output but literally have all of their other stats dwarfing Ryu by a country mile
Depends on the translation (still need to go through raws proper), Viz says his output is not impressive while TCB says it "isn't that bad"Idk about Ryo's AP scaling to Gojo and Sukuna. Higher CE output /=/ Higher AP.. Ryo specifically notes that Yuta didnt have an impressive output, but we know that Yutas AP is pretty high.
Yeah funny Ryu blasts were Tanked By Yuta while Yuta couldn't even tank an attack from Gojo and had to puke.Idk about Ryo's AP scaling to Gojo and Sukuna. Higher CE output /=/ Higher AP.. Ryo specifically notes that Yuta didnt have an impressive output, but we know that Yutas AP is pretty high.
I care not for popular opinion, I only care for what is actually written.Make a thread I'm done arguing. i already repeated the same multiple times arguments are repeating. I don't want to go in circles. Let's see how many would agree with Ryu AP > Sukuna & Gojo
I'm not suggesting you to care. I was talking about your misinterpretation getting accepted in the wiki.I care not for popular opinion, I only care for what is actually written.
yeah cuse its hax my man, its not pure power.Yeah funny Ryu blasts were Tanked By Yuta while Yuta couldn't even tank an attack from Gojo and had to puke.
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well that is for later CRT, again I want the actual statements in the seriouse to be properly understood instead of being thrown to the side for no reasonI'm not suggesting you to care. I was talking about your misinterpretation getting accepted in the wiki.
I have plans but JJK AP & Speed calculation gets changed occasionally. So it's kinda problem nowNow that Gojos profile has been updated we need to update all the other profiles in turn
why? anime is a secondary source since Gege is overseeing it and the scene doesn't contradict anything since we have a cut in the middle of the father son bout that leave a lot of things up in the airWell, its not canon, so not worth
If Milly CRT get accepted, I will post the calc. But until then, mehwhy? anime is a secondary source since Gege is overseeing it and the scene doesn't contradict anything since we have a cut in the middle of the father son bout that leave a lot of things up in the air
??just give up man
fairIf Milly CRT get accepted, I will post the calc. But until then, meh
Hax bypasses physical stats, if Blue was hax then Yuta would've been evisceratedyeah cuse its hax my man, its not pure power.
depends on the hax, not every single ability just outright negates durability, gravity manipulation for example doesn't just outright eviscerate somebody of a comparable durability and AP to its actual power, similar but different thing applies hereHax bypasses physical stats, if Blue was hax then Yuta would've been eviscerated
Any chance I can get a link to that?If Milly CRT get accepted, I will post the calc. But until then, meh
That's not hax, that's just punching harder with extra stepsDue to how blue works it creates a negative space where ever its deployed creating a pulling effect that pulls everything into its radius and with Gojo basically gut punching Yuta and Hakari (cuse you'd not be vomiting from a jab to the jaw) their inside would be experiencing a lot of movement towards Gojo’s fists and at the moment of impact it would create a sudden stop with the counter force of the punch, causing their insides to move quite a bit and I hope I don't need to explain why that would cause you to throw up.
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AP , Durability and Striking strength should be rewritten. I don't know how to put the explanation. Can you update them? Reasoning is Rika Scaling to JJK0 Gojo. Kenjaku scaling to Geto in Physicals.
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Humbled One Profile update
Gojos profile is outdated and has no scans for few abilities. AP section is shit. So here is the replacement Big Thanks to @SunDaGamer for helping me with this Sandbox Current Gojos Profile Updated Sandbox Additional Scaling for other characters Please don't discuss on who wins or loses...vsbattles.com
Current AP Justification sucks for them rewrite it please. I'm not good with English that much i might make mistakes.snip
ah yes because punching harder includes you creating a literal negative space that crates a black hole like effect sucking in literally everything around you.Hax bypasses physical stats, if Blue was hax then Yuta would've been eviscerated
Blue isn't hax, it's just physics manip being used to punch harder, in order for an ability to be hax it has to bypass a physical stat to some capacity which Blue doesn'tah yes because punching harder includes you creating a literal negative space that crates a black hole like effect sucking in literally everything around you.
Would you also then count blue itself as not a hax what so ever?
Blue isn't hax, it's just physics manip being used to punch harder, in order for an ability to be hax it has to bypass a physical stat to some capacity which Blue doesn't
ThisAny chance I can get a link to that?
^Blue isn't hax, it's just physics manip being used to punch harder, in order for an ability to be hax it has to bypass a physical stat to some capacity which Blue doesn't