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Joule Requirement for Universe level Revision
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Would it really scale up linearly, purely based on the count of nucleons, like that? That's unintuitive to me.
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The 202.78 MeV value I used was for the value of the CIDDM Neutron Star I was previously using
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It doesn't scale up linearly, there's a specific value listed for each Neutron Star in the table
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So is that Tier 4A results? If I looking at our own attack potency chart correctly, that is something interesting.
Attack Potency
Destructive Capacity is the term used to determine the amount of damage a character can produce. It is normally the deciding factor of VS matches along with Speed. It is measured in units of energy. An alternative term for Destructive Capacity which has more direct meaning: The Destructive...
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Looks like a decent choice.
So, 939 MeV = 1.5044e-10J
1.5044e-10J = m*c^2 = m*299792458^2 => m = 1.673871e-27kg.
CIDDM M_b is 2.64 M☉ = 5.2507e+30kg
A = M_b / m_b = 5.2507e+30kg / 1.673871e-27kg = 3.136860606343021654595844004705261038634e57
CIDDM E_t/A is 202.78 MeV.
202.78 * 3.136860606343021654595844004705261038634e57 = 6.3609259375423793e59 MeV = 1.019133e+47J
Does that sound correct?
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4-A starts at 10^57 Joules, not 10^47So is that Tier 4A results? If I looking at our own attack potency chart correctly, that is something interesting.
Attack Potency
Destructive Capacity is the term used to determine the amount of damage a character can produce. It is normally the deciding factor of VS matches along with Speed. It is measured in units of energy. An alternative term for Destructive Capacity which has more direct meaning: The Destructive...
Looks good but, upgrading the energy requirement for Universe level based on a hypothetical maximum mass object changes a couple more things than downgrading it would.
So if I did just totally confuse the energy unit (which I'm pretty certain that I did but I want to hear what Qawsed says) then this whole thing can be ignored, we thank @Huzy for catching this mistake, and then we pretend like this whole thing never happened.
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I don’t think there will been any major changes to the attack potency charts, but just minor things as it should account for everything we got regarding cosmic feats and stuff.
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Ah, I assuming you are calculating the amount of energy for a neutron star it keeps generating?
If I am understanding the calculation correctly made by DonTalk, he is calculating the energy of a neutron star.
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It's somewhere around 10^47 Joules, but this is the GBE for a hypothetical maximum mass Neutron Star according to some model, rather than a physical object that exists like PSR J0348+0432. As such it makes more sense to use that for calculating the Baseline for Universe level rather than what I brought up, meaning the current boundary should stay.
No, what's being calc'd is the GBE of a maximum mass Neutron Star, based on the mass energy of the Sun value, and the MeV per Nucleon Value.
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Oh, nm, then I didn’t specifically say GBE.
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Honestly, main problem is that we don't know the radius of CIDMM. Since the new and old values are only off by a factor of less than 2, it being larger could easily make the end result not higher.
So yeah, current result seems like it can just keep being used. Generally, I think we can consider this as having confirmed the polytrope formula as a good approximation.
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There is a calculation for this one.
Energy to destroy matter of the observable universe
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It is a old one though since it is the amount of energy need to destroy all matter of the observable universe.
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Yeah, i had just misunderstood the paper and made an incorrect judgment based off that.
So apologies there for my mistake.
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dafuq, that much for a singuar structure in the universe, no wonder it looked off from here
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That was I typo, I meant 10^47 joules- still we should just keep the current boundary.
It happens to the best of us, don't worry!
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Basically the GBE for a Neutron star is around 4B.
We keeping the current low end boundary of the Observable Universe if I not misinterpreted the comments here.
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Yeah it'll be kept as how it is. This thread can be closed now I think
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I am fine with it myself since the OP’s proposal was a result of misunderstanding in specific calculations methods
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Should be ok.
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