Epyriel
He/Him- 60
- 84
Multiple calculations have been done for the AP of the Bloodborne item A Call Beyond. I have opened this thread to host discussion on which one should be used as per the editing rules.
Old Calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ThePerpetual/Bloodborne:_A_Call_Beyond
Currently Used Calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:WeeklyBattles/Bloodborne:_Recalc_of_A_Call_Beyond
New Calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Epyriel/Bloodborne_-_New_Recalc_of_A_Call_Beyond
I believed a new recalculation was needed due to 3 major flaws in the currently accepted calculation:
1) Inaccurate Volume Assumption:
The current calculation assumes the item summons a star literally in between the hands of the user. This is likely inaccurate as the source of the star is from another plane of reality, and the Japanese translation (as pointed out in the old calc’s comments) seems to specify it is the explosion of a small star, not a small star itself, summoned by the item. The star itself is likely to rest within the ‘lofty plane of darkness’ and not between the user’s hands, with only its explosion being pulled through the item. This is reinforced by the fact a star so small to fit within the user’s hands would instantly collapse into a black hole as determined in the new calc.
2) Dubious Temperature Assumption:
The current calculation assumes the star’s temperature as being uniformly equivalent to the core temperature of the Sun. This is exceedingly implausible, as star temperatures can vary massively, and (ignoring black hole physics) one compressed to fit within the user’s hands would be far hotter than the Sun’s core, and a small star located in the other plane would likely be a red dwarf (by the ‘small’ designation of the item’s description) which would have a temperature far lesser than Sun’s core and distributed extremely unevenly between the core and the surface.
3) Dubious Explosion Modelling:
The current calculation uses the Stefan-Boltzmann Law to calculate the star’s energy release by assuming the explosion can be modelled as a 1 second long emission of blackbody radiation. This seems questionable as the visual depiction of the star’s explosion seems to show a scattering of the star’s mass rather than a sudden flash of radiative emission. Nor does it last a second.
The new calculation fixes the above issues by using Gravitational Binding Energy to determine the minimum edge and likely case of what constitutes a ‘small star’ located in a different plane only whose explosion is brought forth by A Call Beyond. Therefore I propose the new recalculation should be used in place of the current one.
Old Calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ThePerpetual/Bloodborne:_A_Call_Beyond
Currently Used Calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:WeeklyBattles/Bloodborne:_Recalc_of_A_Call_Beyond
New Calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Epyriel/Bloodborne_-_New_Recalc_of_A_Call_Beyond
I believed a new recalculation was needed due to 3 major flaws in the currently accepted calculation:
1) Inaccurate Volume Assumption:
The current calculation assumes the item summons a star literally in between the hands of the user. This is likely inaccurate as the source of the star is from another plane of reality, and the Japanese translation (as pointed out in the old calc’s comments) seems to specify it is the explosion of a small star, not a small star itself, summoned by the item. The star itself is likely to rest within the ‘lofty plane of darkness’ and not between the user’s hands, with only its explosion being pulled through the item. This is reinforced by the fact a star so small to fit within the user’s hands would instantly collapse into a black hole as determined in the new calc.
2) Dubious Temperature Assumption:
The current calculation assumes the star’s temperature as being uniformly equivalent to the core temperature of the Sun. This is exceedingly implausible, as star temperatures can vary massively, and (ignoring black hole physics) one compressed to fit within the user’s hands would be far hotter than the Sun’s core, and a small star located in the other plane would likely be a red dwarf (by the ‘small’ designation of the item’s description) which would have a temperature far lesser than Sun’s core and distributed extremely unevenly between the core and the surface.
3) Dubious Explosion Modelling:
The current calculation uses the Stefan-Boltzmann Law to calculate the star’s energy release by assuming the explosion can be modelled as a 1 second long emission of blackbody radiation. This seems questionable as the visual depiction of the star’s explosion seems to show a scattering of the star’s mass rather than a sudden flash of radiative emission. Nor does it last a second.
The new calculation fixes the above issues by using Gravitational Binding Energy to determine the minimum edge and likely case of what constitutes a ‘small star’ located in a different plane only whose explosion is brought forth by A Call Beyond. Therefore I propose the new recalculation should be used in place of the current one.
