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Actually, no he doesn't, Kira's hand breaks right before time resumes and everything else happens in the next page.
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Jotaro and DIO damage accumulation
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That's Jotaro breaking Kira's hand in stopped time. You can see Star Platinum's fist in the background punching it. He resumes time after that.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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So the only instance I remember Jotaro likely stacking damage doesn't do it either?
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See the anime interpretation of thatPaulo.junior.969 said:
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The anime isn't canon.
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LookPaulo.junior.969 said:
The anime doesn't have filler and it's panel-by-panel depiction of the manga meaning it can be used
Also,the hand started to spill blood after the timestop when it didn't not in the timestop meaning it accumulated damage even if just a little
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Those are just expansions and changes made to better fit the eras and foreshadowings of the manga
The rest is usable
The rest is usable
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Expansions and changes = Not panel-by-panel.
Not panel-by-panel = Not useful.
Not panel-by-panel = Not useful.
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It's usable because they depicted the whole Kira beaten accuratelyPaulo.junior.969 said:
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Not really, in the actual scene, Kira's hand breaks right before time resumes and everything else happens in the next page, it didn't accumulate anything, Jotaro lunches Kira's hand and it's broken before time resumes.
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Okay look
The hand was broken during timestop
She started to bleed after timestop
You got that?
The hand was broken during timestop
She started to bleed after timestop
You got that?
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And therefore, the wasn't damage accumulation. When Jotaro punches something, it will move a little bit in the stopped time before stopping once again, therefore, it doesn't accumulate; if he punches you a million times, it will be a million 8-C punches, not a Tier 6 punch, or whatever.
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But did Kira move while being punched?Paulo.junior.969 said:
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You could argue it being pseudo damage accumulation
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Yes; the manga doesn't show if the rest of his body moves or not, that's how his hand got broke, so it's safe to assume his full body was no different.HoRaOra9087 said:
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On the topic of using the anime, many other verses use the anime as tertiary sources when they have these exact situations. You know, when an event in the manga or novel is visually unclear. It's not wrong to use it when the case matches it. This all or nothing idea is cancerous.
But go on.
But go on.
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Nah, not really, all or nothing is the best way to deal with things.
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Haha YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!Paulo.junior.969 said:
The "he flew after being punched after being punched in timestop meaning the energy accumulated in him or else he wouldn't flew away like he did" card
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Also what Amexim said
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When Jotaro punches something, it will move a little bit in the stopped time before stopping once again mid-air, just like his hand moved a little, and then was sent flying after time resumes.
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But was he thrown in or after the timestop?
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In. He started moving during time stop, stoped, and then continued moving when time resumes. That's why his hand breaks before time resumes.
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Meaning he ACCUMULATED energy to be thrownPaulo.junior.969 said:
Also he never moved while being punched,that's just a headcanon
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Dude, it literally shows his hand being moved in the panel right before Jotaro says "time resumes", there's no headcanon, its what happens in the panel.
When Jotaro punches something, it will move a little bit in the stopped time before stopping once again, therefore, it doesn't accumulate; if he punches you a million times, it will be a million 8-C punches, not a Tier 6 punch, or whatever.
When Jotaro punches something, it will move a little bit in the stopped time before stopping once again, therefore, it doesn't accumulate; if he punches you a million times, it will be a million 8-C punches, not a Tier 6 punch, or whatever.
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All or nothing is NOT the best way to go with things, Paul.
A Manga named Cherry Hunter occasionally comes out with full colored chapters. The anime sometimes has different colors than the manga artist himself painted in his original work. So, with "all or nothing" we throw away the anime, even if it literally follows everything to a T, instead of going case by case based on what seems reliable, regardless if the anime was overseen meticulously by the original writer or not.
Ridiculous. I agree with you on the damage accumulation thing, but if the substance of using anime as a SUPPORTING piece of evidence (not as a main argument but as an additional tool to flesh out the portrayal of a scene in so far as it matches properly and we need elaboration that the Manga can't provide), I think you're wild. But go on.
A Manga named Cherry Hunter occasionally comes out with full colored chapters. The anime sometimes has different colors than the manga artist himself painted in his original work. So, with "all or nothing" we throw away the anime, even if it literally follows everything to a T, instead of going case by case based on what seems reliable, regardless if the anime was overseen meticulously by the original writer or not.
Ridiculous. I agree with you on the damage accumulation thing, but if the substance of using anime as a SUPPORTING piece of evidence (not as a main argument but as an additional tool to flesh out the portrayal of a scene in so far as it matches properly and we need elaboration that the Manga can't provide), I think you're wild. But go on.
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Yeah, if there is even a single detail different, throw it out.
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We go case-by-case. If the anime depiction is similar and doesn't contradict the manga we can use it.
In this case the anime apparently ignored the hand breaking before time resumed so I wouldn't use this scene. JoJo's anime is often adequately depict the manga, but we can't use everything since there's some differences between sources.
So while we could use some anime scenes to justify or explain some manga scenes that aren't explicative enough, if the depiction ignores what the manga shows, then it's a no no.
Anime shows damage accumulation.
Manga doesn't.
Well, the manga is the Primary source while the anime is supportive.
In this case the anime apparently ignored the hand breaking before time resumed so I wouldn't use this scene. JoJo's anime is often adequately depict the manga, but we can't use everything since there's some differences between sources.
So while we could use some anime scenes to justify or explain some manga scenes that aren't explicative enough, if the depiction ignores what the manga shows, then it's a no no.
Anime shows damage accumulation.
Manga doesn't.
Well, the manga is the Primary source while the anime is supportive.
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Good for him.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I'm doing.
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Implying I care for what this wiki thinks is or isn't viable.
Seriously tho, it might be better to go ask it, althrough it probably doesn't have a standard, this wiki is case by case in almost everything.
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What I meant to imply was that your opinion won't be very useful to you if it's not regarded here, and it might change depending on how well people argue against you. And the staff probably would argue for or against whoever they disagree with, as all people would. And you not changing based on being wrong would kind of seem rather disingenuous on a site where conversations are held. But yeah. Imma make the thread.
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Seriously tho, that's one thing I never got about this wiki, if I just follow everything the pages say without asking any question, people complain I'm taking things too literally and that I'm using arguments I don't even agree with, but if I actually try to give my opinion, people complain I'm not following the wiki; what the hell am I supposed to do then?
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The manga SHOWS Damage AccumulationCalaca Vs said:
Kira is send Flying away from the woman in the manga
The anime is just copying the panels
It Is Valid
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The manga shows his hand being damaged before time resumes, it is clearly not accumulation, if it was, his hand would be affected until time resumed.
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@Hora Paulo showed the opposite tho.
This kind of cases need to be more consistent. Za Warudo isn't. Sometimes it shows things resuming after time resumes, sometimes it doesn't. But the cases where it doesn't are far more usual than when IT does, and when IT does it's not entirely the case.
This kind of cases need to be more consistent. Za Warudo isn't. Sometimes it shows things resuming after time resumes, sometimes it doesn't. But the cases where it doesn't are far more usual than when IT does, and when IT does it's not entirely the case.
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