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Johnny Test vs Cinder Fall

I’m currently riding to another state. So my internet is pretty bad right now. The one episode I did watch does have Johnny use an AoE attack constantly, but it’s his thunder hands attack. So it has a charge up time (a very short one, but in that same time Cinder can spawn fire attacks directly on Johnny, but he may dodge). Also I’m not sure if the attack will even be very usuable last I checked we don’t really count wind attacks on this site since a large chunk of the attack won’t actually hit the opponent. Like a tornado is usually 8-C at least but humans can survive them a dozen times over as long as they don’t fall to their deaths or get hit by something in the tornado. Granted Johnny has properly hit people with the attack in his show so it’s properly usuable here.

I’ll watch more episodes when I get the time to see if he does other things (I know sometimes he goes for explosive farts, but that’s both goofy to say and way more unlikely then the wind).
 
Keeweed said:
I’m currently riding to another state. So my internet is pretty bad right now. The one episode I did watch does have Johnny use an AoE attack constantly, but it’s his thunder hands attack. So it has a charge up time (a very short one, but in that same time Cinder can spawn fire attacks directly on Johnny, but he may dodge). Also I’m not sure if the attack will even be very usuable last I checked we don’t really count wind attacks on this site since a large chunk of the attack won’t actually hit the opponent. Like a tornado is usually 8-C at least but humans can survive them a dozen times over as long as they don’t fall to their deaths or get hit by something in the tornado. Granted Johnny has properly hit people with the attack in his show so it’s properly usuable here.

I’ll watch more episodes when I get the time to see if he does other things (I know sometimes he goes for explosive farts, but that’s both goofy to say and way more unlikely then the wind).
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I can provide you some links to make it easier .
 
Yeah ok knowing that this is Johnny X, he'll definitely range spam, and he's definitely more "competent" in this form. He will also spam teleportation if he has to. He also has like 2x the AP advantage so her Aura will definitely be worn down with his Tornado Spam. Then again she also has regen and is more skilled. I do think he'll easily get on her nerves if none of her attacks will connect due to flight and TP, also by transforming into smaller animals and or bigger animals it will most definitely confuse her.

She'll most likely just play into his hands, getting her pissed off by what he does best; having fun and goofing off. Dodging everything: Flight, Teleportation, (maybe even make faces at her or make fun of her), turn into smaller animals as a smaller target. All while doing that spam tornados.

Her Aura AND patience will run very thin, he has far more stamina than she does and he'll do this as long as he needs to, especially if he realizes he has no chance in CQC (he's naturally a long range fighter in this form anyways).

Johnny easily has my vote here.
 
The problem isn’t finding the episodes, Johnny x episodes usually has his name in the title so they are easy to look up. It’s just that my internet isn’t good enough to load videos in any timely manner.
 
I think making Cinder annoyed would actually work against Johnny here. Cinder spams fire more and more while annoyed to the point she’ll just completely nuke the area in fire if she gets too annoyed.
 
Keeweed said:
I think making Cinder annoyed would actually work against Johnny here. Cinder spams fire more and more while annoyed to the point she’ll just completely nuke the area in fire if she gets too annoyed.
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Teleportation will easily deal with that.

And she'll just- waste her stamina/energy doing all that lol
 
Cinder’s stamina vastly upscales from fighting literally all day and she’s spams fire constantly without ever getting tired. Her fire isn’t even a physical actions sometimes and just passively comes off her when she’s annoyed (granted not a lot). So I don’t think it’ll take enough stamina to matter. He can teleport, but if he gets her annoyed enough he’s going to be stuck just constantly teleporting because Cinder is just going to be spawning and leaking fire everywhere.
 
Aura being linked with stamina is super inconsistent, but at its most connected hurting aura doesn’t wear down stamina. Your stamina only goes down when aura breaks and Cinder’s already practically dead if her auras broken so it won’t matter too much by that point.

Though one thing I did think about is Johnny can probably protect himself from her fire with his wind since he can likely blow out a lot of the fire. It won’t help against the fire that spawns on him but that has a half second charge up that can be dodged.

Though Cinder also can freeze Johnny with a ice trail (one that’s hard to see coming) and has the skill advantage to realize just blindly shooting her fire isn’t going to work. Though now that I think about the wind more Cinder getting annoyed actual does start to help Johnny. Cinder does become more of a brute the more annoyed she gets.

If she gets Johnny stuck dodging the fire he likely gets caught and dies but if she gets annoyed in a bad scenario she’ll likely get all her attacks blown out and overwhelmed by the tornadoes.

I’ll rewatch more of Johnny X’s episodes then vote (I would say Johnny has fought an ice guy before since I brought up Cinder’s ice earlier, but the ice guy froze dookie and it worked perfectly fine, so it’ll likely work if Cinder lands her ice)
 
Keeweed said:
Cinder’s stamina vastly upscales from fighting literally all day and she’s spams fire constantly without ever getting tired. Her fire isn’t even a physical actions sometimes and just passively comes off her when she’s annoyed (granted not a lot). So I don’t think it’ll take enough stamina to matter. He can teleport, but if he gets her annoyed enough he’s going to be stuck just constantly teleporting because Cinder is just going to be spawning and leaking fire everywhere.
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Johnny can last a few days in a fight, add on his Pain Tolerance, Elasticity, Toon Force, and Body Control which makes him last longer, and even harder to take down. Johnny should be able to outlast Cinder in a fight. Johnny can teleport from Earth to space. Avoiding these attacks should be no problem.

Keeweed said:
Though one thing I did think about is Johnny can probably protect himself from her fire with his wind since he can likely blow out a lot of the fire. It won’t help against the fire that spawns on him but that has a half second charge up that can be dodged.
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Johnny has literally stopped an entire forest fire with his Hurricane Hands. So yes, you're right lol.

Keeweed said:
Though Cinder also can freeze Johnny with a ice trail (one that’s hard to see coming) and has the skill advantage to realize just blindly shooting her fire isn’t going to work. Though now that I think about the wind more Cinder getting annoyed actual does start to help Johnny. Cinder does become more of a brute the more annoyed she gets.
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Johnny has fought people with ice powers before many times throughout the show. His heat mode transformation is a perfect counter to this. He also has his own Super Breath powers as well.

Keeweed said:
If she gets Johnny stuck dodging the fire he likely gets caught and dies but if she gets annoyed in a bad scenario she’ll likely get all her attacks blown out and overwhelmed by the tornadoes.
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Johnny can easily avoid Cinder's fire attacks.

Keeweed said:
I’ll rewatch more of Johnny X’s episodes then vote (I would say Johnny has fought an ice guy before since I brought up Cinder’s ice earlier, but the ice guy froze dookie and it worked perfectly fine, so it’ll likely work if Cinder lands her ice)
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And since Johnny has fought people with ice powers many times before, he would have no problem countering Cinder's ice attacks.
 
"Due to Cinder’s heat Johnny gets one shot if he tries anything, though I don’t think Cinder scales to dusting aura. Pyrrha’s aura was broken and Ruby has survived her fire without immediately turning to ash."

Cinder melted Pyrrha's sword through her aura, Pyrrha's aura wasnt broken beforehand, and she also nearly melted Rhodes' metal body through his aura.

"also by transforming into smaller animals and or bigger animals it will most definitely confuse her. "

Qrow and Raven can literally turn into birds and do so mid-combat, thats not really going to throw her off at all.

"All while doing that spam tornados."

He cant teleport and spam attacks at the same time. If he's spamming attacks, he cant teleport, if he's spaming teleportation, he cant attack

"Her Aura AND patience will run very thin, he has far more stamina than she does and he'll do this as long as he needs to, especially if he realizes he has no chance in CQC (he's naturally a long range fighter in this form anyways)."

Cinder's stamina in this key scales to people who can fight for two days straight with minimal rest, and she has non-aura based forcefields and her magic which doesnt rely on aura to function. (As shown in raven vs cinder where both auras were broken and could still use magic)

"Your stamina only goes down when aura breaks and Cinder’s already practically dead if her auras broken so it won’t matter too much by that point."

Not necessarily, winter's aura was completely broken in her fight with Ironwood but the second she got the maiden powers she was not only fine, but beat him, went on to fight Cinder, and then soloed a horde of grimm in Vacuo. Cinder should be fine even if her aura goes down
 
“Cinder melted Pyrrha's sword through her aura, Pyrrha's aura wasnt broken beforehand, and she also nearly melted Rhodes' metal body through his aura.”

Then that’ll come up, but I don’t think all her fire scales to that. Ruby didn’t get a hole burnt through her chest when Cinder shot her. But Johnny likes to piss his opponents off so Cinder will absolutely be increasing the temperature of her fire throughout the fight.
 
Keeweed said:
“Cinder melted Pyrrha's sword through her aura, Pyrrha's aura wasnt broken beforehand, and she also nearly melted Rhodes' metal body through his aura.”

Then that’ll come up, but I don’t think all her fire scales to that. Ruby didn’t get a hole burnt through her chest when Cinder shot her. But Johnny likes to piss his opponents off so Cinder will absolutely be increasing the temperature of her fire throughout the fight.
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Yeah, but those two heat feats were done by her semblance. If I remember correctly she even used it for a second on winters neck and made her feel pain and forced her to kick herself off of cinder before she did any more damage despite her aura being up at that point
 
Spinoirr said:
Cinder melted Pyrrha's sword through her aura, Pyrrha's aura wasnt broken beforehand, and she also nearly melted Rhodes' metal body through his aura.
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Fair.

Spinoirr said:
Qrow and Raven can literally turn into birds and do so mid-combat, thats not really going to throw her off at all.
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Johnny can turn into other people as well. Though, Neo can do the same. Cinder wouldn't be thrown off by this, but she will definitely be annoyed, as Johnny can use this to mock Cinder.

Spinoirr said:
He cant teleport and spam attacks at the same time. If he's spamming attacks, he cant teleport, if he's spaming teleportation, he cant attack
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True.

Spinoirr said:
Cinder's stamina in this key scales to people who can fight for two days straight with minimal rest, and she has non-aura based forcefields and her magic which doesnt rely on aura to function. (As shown in raven vs cinder where both auras were broken and could still use magic)
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Johnny can fight for 3 days with no rest in between, along with abilities like Toon Force, Body Control, Elasticity and Pain Tolerance that not only makes him harder to kill, but will also make him last longer. Stamina won't really play a factor here, as @Keeweed already stated that this fight won't last a day, which I agree with 100%.

Spinoirr said:
Not necessarily, winter's aura was completely broken in her fight with Ironwood but the second she got the maiden powers she was not only fine, but beat him, went on to fight Cinder, and then soloed a horde of grimm in Vacuo. Cinder should be fine even if her aura goes down
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Also true.
 
For all the RWBY and Johnny Test supporters here:

There's a pretty good chance that there's going to be more RWBY vs Johnny Test matchups made in the future. I'm calling it now.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
For all the RWBY and Johnny Test supporters here:

There's a pretty good chance that there's going to be more RWBY vs Johnny Test matchups made in the future. I'm calling it now.
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Unless I use my fan made rwby characters from FCOC vs battle wiki (it can only be added to the oc/fc profile)
 
So this battle basically comes down to each character's Powers and Abilities.

Who's physically stronger doesn't really matter here, right?
 
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