Izuku Midoriya vs Eren Yeager (Redo... Again)

[TheRustyOne]

Eren was downgraded so this fight needs to be redone... Again.

This is Pre-Timeskip Titan Eren and Hardening is allowed.

Izuku starts at 8% and higher percentages are allowed.

Speed is Not Equalized.

Who wins?

Izuku: Therefir, (1)

Ere: WeeklyBattles, CoreOfimBalance(COB), (2)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Eren still takes this just with a bit more difficulty. Izuku is a bit stronger than him normally (1.8 tons vs being undamaged by a 1.1 ton attack) but Eren's Hardening will help immensely as even 20% Izuku is only baseline High 8-C, while Eren's Hardening is durable enough that Levi, who can cut apart a baseline High 8-C like Zeke, cant damage it.

Izuku can still possibly take this if he uses his higher %s early enough and gets lucky enough to hit Eren's weak spot, but if he doesnt hit the weak spot Eren can regenerate or create a full new body. Eren is also very likely to take Izuku out before he gets mad enough to think to use the higher %s given his experience fighting smaller, more mobile opponents.

Izuku can win, but Eren is still more likely to here.

 

[Therefir]

Izuku has the advantage in almost every aspect, which include speed, Izuku being much smaller than Eren will make it much easier to dodge his blows, in the aspect of endurance, Eren can only fight for an hour before becoming a mindless Titan, while Deku can fight for eight hours straight without rest, and can also endure tremendous punishment, the aspect of technique may be debatable, but Izuku was smart enough to create his own signature style, in which he can fight against people much experienced than himself, like Gentle, so for all those reasons I vote for Izuku.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

>Eren can only fight for an hour

Uh what? He trained with the survey corps to be able to stay in his titan form and stay in full control of it for several hours.

Izuku is mach 1.2 vs Eren's Mach 1.5, and Eren has experience fighting and catching the far smaller and more mobile Survey Corps members during his training with them

Izuku also cant hurt Eren unless he goes 100% due to Eren's Hardening and cant do any meaningful damage due to his regen

 

[Therefir]

I also want to mention that while Eren has his punches hardened to protect himself, Izuku has the Iron soles and the Full gauntlet, which can withstand the use of One For All 100% without any damage, this means that Eren will be completely unable to damage these parts of Izuku's body.

 

[Nico-v11]

Fights don't take an hour. If anything 10 minutes is probably all this is gonna take

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Fir Small pieces of armor really wont protect his entire body from a fist that is as large as he is

 

[Therefir]

> Fights don't take an hour. If anything 10 minutes is probably all this is gonna take

It really depends from the stamina of the character and the verse, sometimes battles can take entire days to finish, Izuku's battle with Gentle took like an hour to finish I think.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Izuku might try to outlast, though he does have the Full Gauntlet which lets him use 100% three times before breaking. He'll have three chances to kill with his 100% 8-B+.

Also Izuku is several levels faster than Mach 1.2 as stated by Bakugou when he fought a early 8% Izuku.

The Full Gauntlet is also a good shield.

 

[Therefir]

@Fir Small pieces of armor really wont protect his entire body from a fist that is as large as he is

I'm sure he can use the Full Gauntlet to partially block Eren's punches, but he can just dodge them, Eren is completely unable to chase Izuku.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

If this starts off as it should... Doesn't this mean Eren starts off as a human and likely not transformed and can take Deku by surprise? Also Eren's a a smart guy. He could preserve stamina too and wait for Deku to attack.

No idea on where "Eren becomes a mindless titan after an hour" comes from though.

But yeah combination of regen, tactics, hardening, kinda makes it on Eren's favor.

 

[TheRustyOne]

No, Eren starts in his Titan form.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Ahhh, nevermind then. But point still stands. Also even if Deku harms Eren, the thing he might aim for is his head or do what he did to Chisaki and send him flying up. Certainly possible but he's gonna harm himself. He doesn't know where exactly Eren is hiding inside.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Well Izuku's got three chances to use 100% without breaking his arms.

 

[DMUA]

Dear lord Deku vs Eren is becoming like RWBY vs JoJo

too

many

threads

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Even assuming he gets the chance to use one, the likelihood that he hits the spot he needs in order to kill Eren is very low, meanwhile Eren will regenerate, know what will happen if he gets hit by it again, and know to avoid it or take Izuku down before he uses it again

 

[Therefir]

Deku can also use 30% without limit with the Full Gauntlet.

@CoreOfimBalance(COB) I'll try to find that statement in the manga.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Maybe stop changing Deku's tier so much

I swear he changes every other week

 

[DMUA]

Just do the Shifuto trick

Make him fight Thunder McQueen then never give him a matchup again unless it's really tempting

 

[Therefir]

Eren can't regenerate as if nothing had happened, he was about to be defeated by normal Titans, and they didn't blow up his body or anything, his Regenerationn requires a lot of stamina and time, even regenerating a head takes several minutes.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Fir Youre referring to Very early series Eren, the eren being used here is after he got Hardening, after he had extensive training, and after he learned to control his Attack Titan powers. Hell this Eren almost singlehandedly killed all of the titans on Paradis.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

I wouldn't say all considering they had to develop a great weapon to casually off titans first. But definitely the rest of that.

 

[Schnee_One]

Fights don't take an hour.

Yes they absolutely can.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Plus even if Deku blew up a large enough part of Eren that he'd need time to regen, the Attack titan looks visibly dead, so why would he continue attacking it?

 

[Therefir]

When Eren almost singlehandedly killed all of the titans on Paradis?

 

[Therefir]

If Izuku manages to blow up the Attack Titan's head he is definitely going to see Eren there, also it's not like he's going to wait until Eren fully regenerates.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

After the Battle of Trost District and before the attacks on Marley, which was later explained after the timeskip

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If Izuku manages to blow up the Attack Titan's head he is definitely going to see Eren there, also it's not like he's going to wait until Eren fully regenerates.

The Nape of the neck is low enough that blowing up your head wont reveal it, plus Eren's head has been destroyed before and not exposed him, as have other shifters

 

[Therefir]

After the Battle of Trost District and before the attacks on Marley, which was later explained after the timeskip

The Titans were mostly defeated by a weapon installed in the Walls by Eren.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No those were just the titans that were trying to enter or still within the district, Eren and the Survey Corps actively hunted down and killed all the remaining titans on Paradis

 

[Therefir]

Eren didn't do it alone and it took them a year to finish, I don't know why you mentioned that as a feat in the first place.

The Nape of the neck is low enough that blowing up your head wont reveal it, plus Eren's head has been destroyed before and not exposed him, as have other shifters

When the Warhammer Titan destroyed Eren's head, he was exposed.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The warhammer titan didnt just destroy his head it destroyed his head and neck and even then it missed Eren as he was just fine. He then proceeded to make a completely new titan body after a short chat with Mikasa.

 

[Therefir]

> He then proceeded to make a completely new titan body after a short chat with Mikasa.

Okay, but the Eren we are using in this match can't do that.

> The warhammer titan didnt just destroy his head it destroyed his head and neck and even then it missed.

The Warhammer Titan was able to destroy Eren's hardened arms and head, so a 100% punch should definitely be able to do that and even more.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

So what exactly is different between this match and the one that would be finishing grace right about now?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Eren now has slightly lower AP

 

[Therefir]

Eren's overall power was halved, and in that thread equipments like the Iron Soles and the Full Gauntlet were not taken into account.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If we're not using that then...why are you bring it up in the first place?

Also Izuku is smaller than the Warhammer Titan's hammer and doesnt have a way to effectively immobilize Eren to be able to get a clear shot at his head in order to do the same thing.

 

[Therefir]

> If we're not using that then...why are you bring it up in the first place?

What do you mean? You mentionated that feat of Eren not me.

> Also Izuku is smaller than the Warhammer Titan's hammer and doesnt have a way to effectively immobilize Eren to be able to get a clear shot at his head in order to do the same thing.

Izuku is faster than Eren and he doesn't even need to punch him directly, the One For All's shockwaves are big enought to cover Eren's body.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Actually no, you were the one who mentioned it first:

"When the Warhammer Titan destroyed Eren's head, he was exposed."

No? He's Mach 1.2 vs Eren's Mach 1.8, Eren is faster here.

 

[Therefir]

> Actually no, you were the one who mentioned it first.

We were talking about two different things, but in the end Izuku's 100% is far stronger than the Warhammer Titan's attacks, and the AOE is also way bigger.

> No? He's Mach 1.2 vs Eren's Mach 1.8, Eren is faster here.

...? Eren's combat speed is Mach 1.5, and Deku 8% is several levels faster than his 5% which is Mach 1.21, not to mention that his 20% is far faster than his 8%.