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Itachi's sword upgrade

Kachon123 said:
Staff members disagree just for the sake of disagreeing to get threads closed. Nothing new.
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Or staff members could genuinely think the proposals don't have sufficient evidence.

No need to complain about it just because things don't go your way. Naruto had had countless approved revisions in the past too, there is no bias against the series occurring here.
 
GokuSparkle said:
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Just gonna mention again that the last sentence of this paragraph gives a detailed, non hyperbolic description of the spirit weapons' ignoring AP/Durability
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idk why this is even contriversal tbh
 
Deceived3596 said:
Naruto can't have shit on this site ong
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You're just making up abilities, what did you expect? The evidence we have supports the blade functioning more or less as a typical physical weapon which, upon a successful strike, activates a sealing jutsu that pulls someone into a gourd.

There's no evidence -- none -- that it ignores durability, that it damages souls, or that it's a super weapon that could kill literally any being.
 
Deagonx said:
You're just making up abilities, what did you expect? The evidence we have supports the blade functioning more or less as a typical physical weapon which, upon a successful strike, activates a sealing jutsu that pulls someone into a gourd.

There's no evidence -- none -- that it ignores durability, that it damages souls, or that it's a super weapon that could kill literally any being.
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Should have Soul Manipulation imo since it fills the requirements for Soul Manip which is the following.
Soul Manipulation is the ability to interact with one's soul or the souls of others. This ability ranges from being able to project the power of one's soul outward, grasping and ripping the souls of others out of their bodies, outright consuming souls to gain power, among other applications.
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And this is what the blade does when it pierces someone.


I disagree with Dura Neg though since imo it hasn't displayed the feats for that.
 
KingogKings777 said:
Should have Soul Manipulation imo since it fills the requirements for Soul Manip which is the following.

And this is what the blade does when it pierces someone.


I disagree with Dura Neg though since imo it hasn't displayed the feats for that.
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As long as it is noted that's via Sealing, I agree with that.
 
Deagonx said:
You're just making up abilities, what did you expect? The evidence we have supports the blade functioning more or less as a typical physical weapon which, upon a successful strike, activates a sealing jutsu that pulls someone into a gourd.

There's no evidence -- none -- that it ignores durability, that it damages souls, or that it's a super weapon that could kill literally any being.
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You have literally brought up no evidence to backup your claims of hyperbole.
Damage3245 said:
The section you quoted doesn't support Durability Negation to me.
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Bruh read your own Durability Negation page , It's like saying just cause I hit you with a conceptual weapon and it deals physical damage, it wouldn't deal conceptual damage. Its a Spirit blade first and foremost which should negate physical dura.
 
Deagonx said:
You're just making up abilities, what did you expect? The evidence we have supports the blade functioning more or less as a typical physical weapon which, upon a successful strike, activates a sealing jutsu that pulls someone into a gourd.

There's no evidence -- none -- that it ignores durability, that it damages souls, or that it's a super weapon that could kill literally any being.
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Learn what a joke is you 🤓

I'm not being serious when i said that, it's just me shitposting.

I'll address your arguments tomorrow, aboutta go to bed here in a couple minutes.
 
Deceived3596 said:
Learn what a joke is you 🤓

I'm not being serious when i said that, it's just me shitposting.
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Not everyone cares for the jokes when they are trying to have an actual discussion.

Anywho, I'd say the blade is an odd case but the cutting down any enemy does sound like hyperbole. However, if we consider it a spirit weapon and the fact that it literally sucks you in (shown when stabbing), a Durability Negation in some way is possibly. Non-Physical Interaction... the issue comes from the fact that since it's sucking up the body, the soul technically comes with it since your soul is in your body. Honestly I can see it having those abilities but I can also see why people consider it hyperbolic and to say it 100% without a doubt isn't is incorrect to me in my opinion but that's my interpretation and this is coming from someone who's an opponent of this verse (last part was a joke)

I guess I'd be considered neutral or would be fine with a possibly.
 
KingTempest said:
What's the arguments for both sides
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The argument is that the Totsuka blade should be granted Durability Negation because it's "stated to be able to cut down any enemy" and is called a spiritual weapon, ipso facto the idea is that its spiritual nature can ignore armor that sort of thing.

Myself, Lephyr, and Damage disagree, given that such an assessment appears to be a fairly egregious NLF, and in practice it functions more or less as a normal blade which activates a sealing jutsu upon contact, but that there's no real evidence for actual durability negation
 
Deagonx said:
The argument is that the Totsuka blade should be granted Durability Negation because it's "stated to be able to cut down any enemy" and is called a spiritual weapon, ipso facto the idea is that its spiritual nature can ignore armor that sort of thing.
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That isn't the entire argument, just an aspect of it, if this thread is still open tomorrow then i'll explain in more depth, but if it isn't then tough shit for the Narutoverse.
 
There's like three people actively in this thread who were foaming at the mouth at the idea of this being rejected, but none of them are able to simply summarize the parts that I allegedly overlooked right now?
 
Deagonx said:
There's like three people actively in this thread who were foaming at the mouth at the idea of this being rejected, but none of them are able to simply summarize the parts that I allegedly overlooked right now?
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I don't care whether this is accepted or not. I've barely even been here.

I just find it very strange that you can say something that is blatantly wrong and have another staff member immediately agree with you.
 
Stryker861 said:
I have to go to bed so ill let decieved sum it up tommrow
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His points were easy to read, plus ik him offsite so I've been hearing only 1 side for a while.

Totsuka Blade is a spiritual blade.
They know that.
They're not disagreeing with that.

But the Totsuka blade doesn't act like a durability negating blade.

It doesn't phase through opponents, it physically harms them, and blood can rest on the blade.

The databook is honestly flat out wrong at that point saying it has no physical form when it can physically interact with others, can have regular blood interact with it, and is also called liquid by the databook as well.

Now, that "cut down any enemy" argument is such bs.

Kinshiki has dura neg for being able to obliterate all things?
What about Temari who can "eliminate any enemy that stands in her way"?
Same for Madara cutting down all things?
Or nobody inverse standing a chance to Sasuke's speed?
Maybe Kakashi's Raikiri being able to cut through anything?

That argument is just trying to quantify hyperbole. It shouldn't count.

On top of that, can yall chill tf out?
 
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