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Speed upgrade for two Instant Death characters
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Yogiri doesn't have immeasurable speed, only "reaction" at best and it's only his passive. But yeah, regardless it makes no sense if we assume Miss Fox could come whenever she wished.
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Nobody explains the very nature of immeasurable speed as clear as FC/OC, unfortunately.
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Reaction and he gets speedblitzed by most characters..
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What? Bro, only reaction?
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Chapter yoshifumi vs takumiWell, his passive ID is built differently
Yoshifumi doesn't have immeasurable speed?
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What do you mean?
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In the event where Yoshi and Taku fought,
Yoshi threw the Wandering Edge knife across space-time to the past in order to prevent Takumi from gaining divine power, thus preventing him from achieving immeasurable speed. Aside from time travel and causality,
A sadistic smile rose to Yoshifumi's face. There was no way he was explaining out of the kindness of his heart. Takumi could tell he was just doing it to make him despair all the more.
"This thing is called the Wandering Edge." Yoshifumi played with a knife in his hands. It must have been the knife that had vanished into the air earlier. "It can travel into the past and change eve
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nts."
Yoshi threw the Wandering Edge knife across space-time to the past in order to prevent Takumi from gaining divine power, thus preventing him from achieving immeasurable speed. Aside from time travel and causality,
A sadistic smile rose to Yoshifumi's face. There was no way he was explaining out of the kindness of his heart. Takumi could tell he was just doing it to make him despair all the more.
"This thing is called the Wandering Edge." Yoshifumi played with a knife in his hands. It must have been the knife that had vanished into the air earlier. "It can travel into the past and change eve
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nts."
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I still don't understand what you mean.
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Yoshifumi'sWandering Edge doesn't have immeasurable sp?
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No.
Dishano
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We don't know. We just know that in this conversation between Yogiri and Miss Fox, he asked this Past timeline Miss Fox if he can come with her, but she declined it. She have a baby Yogiri to take care of after her clone disappeared.
While in other conversation it's different, because Yogiri asked Mitsuki, Sion and Kouryu if they can bring him back to my world which is the same timeline everyone is in.
HRE can kill and destroy lowly Gods and their worlds in the sea, but it's also stated that some Gods in that realm can fight them off and defend their world.
So HRE would still be comparable or faster than some of those lowly Gods that have immeasurable speed.
Meanwhile Highly Gods that are not bound by the sea are faster than HRE, and can go up to Higher Universes. (Highly Gods in Van's game in the sky and Alexia) They would've escape HRE speed blitzing and the destruction of MalnaRilna's world at that moment in time, if Yogiri didn't attack that HRE.
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Yeah but no. She would know the location of it in the past, hence in the present, she could come whenever she wanted to save Yogiri. You said "we don't know" because it goes against your flawed interpretation.
So Yogiri, out of nowhere, would ask "hey, can you bring me in your past timeline" when his whole goal since volume 1 is to come back in his world. You're just delusional.
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The "we don't know" is me answering your question as to why Yogiri asked this Miss Fox if he can come with her.
This doesn't goes against my interpretation.
Because This version of Miss Fox is from the past timeline when Yogiri is a baby, while Miss Fox in the main story timeline is on Earth.
When UEG was fighting against a God in Slow Life League squad in Van's game, she went to all timelines and collected every Gods that is the same person as the one she's fighting against, and the author said that there are many different version of Yogiri, which is consistent with Past timeline Miss Fox interaction with Future teenager Yogiri and other timelines stuff that happened in the series.
How am I delusional. When that's what their conversation is referring to.
“Miss Fox,” Yogiri called out to the new arrival.
“Oh! Look how BIG you are now! Have you been doing well?”
(Past timeline Miss Fox)
Past timeline Miss Fox is shocked that this Yogiri is big.“Yeah, I’m doing fine, but why are you here?” (Yogiri)
“Well, that person tried to attack you when you were a BABY with the Wandering Edge. So I came here to counter it.” (Past timeline Miss Fox)
“How did you get here?” (Yogiri)
“I just followed the blade’s path.” (Past timeline Miss Fox)
“CAN YOU BRING ME BACK WITH YOU? (Yogiri)
“No, I don’t think so. The me you see is just a shadow. I’ll be disappearing from here soon enough.”
(Past timeline Miss Fox)
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Disagree, this doesn't seem like speed, but rather an ability.
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If something travels through time, we default to time travel. It's only when this is clarified to be through some sort of speed/movement that it qualifies as immeasurable.
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I'd like to add that, for the HRE case, it's true body simply "float" outside the world (Into The Sea) and since its body is bigger than the world, it can eat them easily.
However, we've seen that the HRE actually needs to use his ability to rewind time. The feat was performed by an HRE avatar, but the description still holds up to the Foundation Eater as a whole.
So yeah, I think we can agree that the HRE being immeasurable because "they can eat worlds with immeasurable beings inside" can't work, right?
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It shouldn't always be there in the first place, even the "most" consistent one (Yogiri) is literally the worst justification for immeasurable. It's like you're explaining a passive ability that can travel through time = it's immeasurable and it scales to his speed, and the fact it scales to his reaction too and the only justification? He can see faster than the eye can see (obviously he doesn't get speedblitz most of the time and doesn't get saved by his passive abilities guys trust!!).
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Yogiri's immeasurable is because there are in-verse statement done by the narration that "no matter how fast, it would still die", hence, if someone is "immeasurable", Yogiri's passive obviously scale to it.
Faulty logic but eh, not the first time.
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Who would he scale from if there's no immeasurable characters that's atleast consistent in ID..
That's just bad, ngl.
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None, but that's another problem.
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But Yoshifumi's hax travelled through space and time? And wouldn't the ability have a raw speed, since it made a path throughout the cosmology?
and after the knife went into Yoshifumi's chest and the "time travel" was done twice, Miss Fox arrived to the future timeline in seconds, and then Miss Fox said that she "followed" the path to get this timeline.
So wouldn't that be movement speed for Miss Fox?
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Yeah not seeing this as a speed feat, seems more like an ability than anything
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