This is why we downgrade brotha.
1. Databooks don't use terms like that
Non physical liquid
Seems a second upgrade is in order. The totsuka blade should have both mental and spiritual sealing + NPICurse Marks aren't really souls there his consciousness.
I think that KingTempest summarized it greatly.
It says yata mirror is a spiritual weapon. Spiritual =/= magical. I am aware of what the title says (which is never again repeated in the DB OR manga).
It is literally a liquid non-physical sword. It is not structurally defined like a real sword.
I'm saying the ability to wield spirit weapons is not an inherent ability of all susanoos. They are literally chakra structures, which is why I said at the minimum, all you need is chakra to be able to interact with the sword. My original point being, anything with chakra can interact with these weapons.
To wordy(my biggest issue), also doesn't this contradict the databook now since it's telling you two different things at once?
Why can't it be both?
It doesn't have feats anywhere near the TSOs because the characters around at the time weren't nearly as strong as they were in the late WA. What do you expect Kishimoto to do? Have God descend from the heavens to be negged by the spirit weapons?
This is such a ridiculous question. He's obviously not saying it couldn't be both. The evidence we have is that it's spiritual. Do you have evidence that it is also magical?
The circumstances which may have prevented it from having such feats doesn't change or override the fact that it doesn't have those feats.
I think most likely the concepts are similar enough in practice in the verse that it might be a bit redundant, but I'm not opposed to it per se.
Yes, the statement that it is
Why is everyone always saying where are the feats
Statements are valid when there aren't feats to the contrary, despite what many people seem to think. Feats>Statements is true when they both exist and oppose each other, but that doesn't mean statements on their own aren't good enough
What statement says its magical?
Because that is the bread and butter of the basic concept of this website.
Despite what you may seem to think, we do not blindly accept statements as valid just because "there aren't feats to the contrary." Where did you get this idea that statements are just accepted carte blanche without anti feats? That would be a completely insane standard to have. And with that said, there are antifeats to much of what is being proposed here.
It depends on context and content. Given the clear hyperbole in many of these statements, it would be crazy to take them at face value. Theres like 4 people arguing here, without a shred of irony, that the totsuka blade could just straight up gib any opponent because of a hype statement in a guidebook. Makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Feats and statements are used a plenty
I'm not saying ALL statements should be accepted without question, I'm just saying statements don't always need feats. And what antifeats are those?
Statements about things with infinite AP and durability are naturally going to SOUND hyperbolic, but that doesn't mean they are. TSOs are stated to nullify all ninjutsu, which sounds exaggerated, but that's just the properties of how it works, and is accepted. The Totsuka Blade can't defeat absolutely everyone, but it does work on everyone that only has conventional durability.
Then you're literally agreeing that the statement is wrong. It doesn't say "can cut down any enemy that has conventional durability." It says any enemy.
I agree Reason 2. It looks explainableHey everyone, this is my first CRT so hopefully this goes well. The upgrade that I am proposing is that Durability Negation be added to Itachi's Totska blade. I have 3 main reason for believing that the Totska blade can Bypass durability.
1. The Totska blade is stated to be able to cut down any enemy
Even though it has extremely few showings, each time it has been used it has never struggled to cut up Oroichimaru, his 8 headed hydra, and Nagato. so it has no antifeats
2. The totska blade as well as the yata mirror lack physical form
With this information we know that the totska blade doesn't have a physical form, despite this its still able to interact with the physical world (its weird I know). Now this is important because without a physical form, the traditional formula for force which is mass x acceleration cannot be used.
Edit: Sense the totska blade is adressed as a spritual weapon multiple times. It should likely be capable of attacking on a spritual level
3. Its stated multiple times to be the perfect Offense
On the first paragraph it states that itachi's Susanoo boast an absolutly perfect attack due to this blade. These weapons are also called matchless for their respective uses.
As we know, the yata mirror is able to defend from any type of attack no matter what and can freely change its attributes to render an oncoming attack ineffective as stated. Now i mentioned this because based on everything we now about the yata mirror, it really is the perfect defense. So in order for one to have a perfect offense as well, it should not rely on someones durability being low enough and be able to completely ignore it which supports it being able to cut down any enemy.
Lastly i just want to thank yall for taking the time to read this, whatever the outcome this was pretty fun to make
Agree: LuffyRuffy46307, Milly_Rocking_Bandit, Kachon123, Trihexa102, Decieved3596, shadownobokunohero, gokusparkle, GTsek, ssgengar, Monkey_Dunno, Robo, Golden_ void, karzen, Arkensis, Yusuf21259, AnimesFreak2, Godernet, NaruRiasUzamki, RanaProGamer, Excel616, (Just NPI)LephyrTheranchivist, (just soul manip) Deagonx
(limited Dura neg)Arc7kuroi
Nuetral: Ped2018,
disagree: Kingogkings777, Kaydee, Damage3245
If it's from an inverse perspective then it's true
Thought we were waiting on Deceived, but I suppose enough time has passed.
He's getting milk with Arc.
Is that a Naruto Abridged reference or am I just old
Nah it's a fatherless joke.
Let's not pretend that editors only create the plot of a series from chapter to chapter. Everything was already thought of from beginning to end. If Kishimoto wanted to, he would have.
Again, the title mentioning the word "magical," which is literally never repeated elsewhere, is just more evidence of hyperbole. The same databook titles say Sasuke has "godlike speed" even though he was nowhere near the level of the kages who were actually called gods of shinobi at that time.
Y'all can close the thread and add the changes, just don't care enough to respond to this thread anymore tbh.
Having something super out of nowhere like that just for the purpose of showing the full extent of their power would be a bad writing choice
How can magical even be an exaggeration? It's not like that's a high level of a certain thing like ultimate is a higher version of good. Magical is just a property, nothing more, nothing less. Not every piece of info can be repeated multiple times, or the databooks would be twice as long.
King Tempest summarizes this all very well and this thread is just evidence of people jumping on board neglecting evidence just to force an upgrade through.
You may disagree, and I share that sentiment, but there's no need for insults in a rebuttal.
Yea i dont think most people had a problem with that
If you want, I can close it now.
Lets apply the soul manip and npi first
